German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

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German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by jringbom » 03 Jan 2022 11:40

Cheers!

Does any body know the number of German subs in the baltic during jan 1945-march 1945?
Im especially looking for any movement or action west of the island of Gotland during these dates?
(I suppose there were none west of Gotland but want to make sure...)

Cheers, j

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by igorr » 09 Jan 2022 12:20

German subs in south Baltic all where training. Some frontboote was sent in Finnish gulf, but most leave as early as January. There was only one boat left til march in Finnish gulf. Perhaps she pass near Gotland when go to and from position, i don't know it for sure. Schulboote all were near Danzig bay.

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by jringbom » 18 Jan 2022 08:50

Thanks everybody!

Not a lot of German subs in the area then. Just what I thought....
Im still fighting with the fact that:

1. Minesweeper Landsort was attacked in the morning of 31 januari 1945. Witness saw what appeared to be a torpedo wake.
(Rhowher wrongly points out L-3 for this attack although L-3 wasn't in the area at all. Why would he suggest this?)

2. Freighter Gute (from Gotland to Nynäshamn) was attacked on the 2 of February 1945: Two witnesses saw torpedo wake.

3. Minesweeper Bredskär in convoy with passenger steamer picked up sound from a possible uboat close to Gotland.

No periscope visible at any time. All "attacks" occurred during day.
No soviet subs was in the area no attacked any ship in this area on these dates.
The last incident is the least believable. Maybe a sub past the area, but this doesn't mean it was going to attack?
So what happened? No German subs (although they would hardly attack Swedish ships) and no soviet subs in the area. Any suggestions?

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by igorr » 19 Jan 2022 04:56

Submarinemania - this is the answer. I can remember many soviet attacks on U-boats in Far North in first 2 weeks of war. There was periscopes, torpedo tracks and even submarines. But first real U-boat appeared there only 11.7.41.

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by jringbom » 19 Jan 2022 18:05

This was actually my thaught too!

After the sinking of steamer Hansa (24/11 1944) I think people got the feeling that suddenly there were submarines everywhere...

Igorr, Do you if all soviet submarines traveled west of Gotland going to positions in the south? Or was this just random?
I know that the L-21, K-52 and K-51 did so in November 1944. Was this actually a normal route?

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Re: German subs in the south Baltic: 1 jan-1march 1945?

Post by igorr » 20 Jan 2022 04:06

I don't know for sure, but soviet command was very formulaic and don't like made many various plans. So it quite possibly that all subs go one way

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