How does your country view WWII?

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Larry D. » 09 Apr 2021 16:20

Reukoff Vitalla wrote:
09 Apr 2021 15:34
Let me not believe you. I have not mentioned contemporary politicians. I also did not mention the current political situation. Like in this post. Which no one has deleted. and was not even going to delete.
Larry D. wrote:
06 Apr 2021 14:12


WOW, R.V., that's heavy, i.e., difficult to believe. If we turned the clock back a few months to the Trump Administration, and change "Nazi" and "Nazis" to "Nationalists" and "Super Patriots" then I might understand how there might be some moral support there from the U.S. Embassy because of Trump's tilt to the Far Right. But not after 20 January 2021 when Biden was inaugurated. Furthermore, I strongly doubt you are a native-born Ukrainian because your English is too good.

L.
However, I was just trying to answer this person's question. Honestly answer as I feel it. And only for this purpose he provided a photo. From open sources via Google. I am studying history. You can find out by looking at my posts.

I took advantage of your offer. And asked to delete my account. And the rules should be the same for everyone. I didn't see it here. Besides, I am used to free expression of my thoughts. Limitations of thought humiliate me.

Especially for Terry Duncan.
R.V. and Forum Moderators:

To be clear, my reply to you was in response to your misguided allegations that the U.S. diplomatic representatives to Ukraine were somehow in support of Nazis and Nazism/Naziism. It was my purpose to correct this totally erroneous claim. I was so taken back by your statement that I thought it likely you might be a Russian hacker who had infiltrated this thread for the purpose of spreading disinformation, hence my question regarding your true nationality. Pax vobiscum.

L.

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Account deleted » 09 Apr 2021 16:53

Larry D. wrote:
09 Apr 2021 16:20



To be clear, my reply to you was in response to your misguided allegations that the U.S. diplomatic representatives to Ukraine were somehow in support of Nazis and Nazism/Naziism. It was my purpose to correct this totally erroneous claim. I was so taken back by your statement that I thought it likely you might be a Russian hacker who had infiltrated this thread for the purpose of spreading disinformation, hence my question regarding your true nationality. Pax vobiscum.

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Of course I will be banned again. But especially for you. Colonel Brittany Stewart, Defense Attaché of the US Embassy in Ukraine, she had a chevron with a skull and the signature “Ukraine or death”.
The slogan of the UPA which was commanded by the SS Haupsturm Fuhrer Roman Shukhevich His flag was also there. In the fight against the Russians and the Nazis will come down. Whether the State Department does not know who Roman Shukhevych is.
And I have nothing to do with hackers.
Especially for Larry D.

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Account deleted » 09 Apr 2021 17:14

Now Larry is forced to leave the forum. Now I'm getting banned. Although I am ready to answer for every word.

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by David Thompson » 09 Apr 2021 18:52

Reukoff Vitalla -- Keep your posts on the topic being discussed and use the forum's private messaging service for your off-topic commentary to others. You can consider this post a warning.

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Account deleted » 11 Apr 2021 06:50

David Thompson wrote:
09 Apr 2021 18:52
Reukoff Vitalla -- Keep your posts on the topic being discussed and use the forum's private messaging service for your off-topic commentary to others. You can consider this post a warning.
Terry Duncan wrote:
07 Apr 2021 13:28
Reukoff Vitalla

Do not stray into modern politics, let alone post solely about them. This has always been against the rules and will quickly end in senior staff becoming unhappy with you. Stick to the topic under discussion please.

Terry
Dear, David Thompson and Terry Duncan.
Please read the title of the topic. "How does your country view WWII?". How does my country view World War 2 today? I got the topic right, didn't I?
My post was just about today in my country. Attitude towards World War 2 today.
But the post was deleted. Reread it if possible. If not, then I have a suggestion.
To avoid a similar situation. I suggest changing the rule. Mark the post and invite the author to change it in the part where you see the violation. I felt insulted after deleting two posts in a row. And the motivation about the anger of my older comrades did not suit me. More attention should be paid to motivating your actions.
However, there will be no complaints about anyone. I do not know if you will consider my proposal? But in any case, I am leaving the forum. Thanks to the members of the forum for interesting conversations. I am sincerely grateful. The land is small. And see you somewhere. I confirm my wish to be completely removed from the forum.

Sincerely yours Vitaly Reukov. Dnipro Ukraine.

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 11 Apr 2021 14:28

Dear everyone,

Before engaging in a debate, let alone a flame war, please check whether the initial post was perhaps started by a spammer. In this case, it was. The initial post is a spam-copy of a 5-year-old Reddit post. It should have been reported and removed, not turned into a discussion, and worse.

The moderators are fighting tons of spam on daily basis, but there's only a handful of them and it's physically impossible for so few people to cover the entire forum, checking every post. So please, in future, be more considerate of the moderators' time and energy, and try helping them if possible, instead of arguing or complaining. They're doing everything so that we all could have a better place to learn, share and discuss history. And they're doing it for free, getting mostly headaches in return lately.

Everyone should be aware that there's a lot more tension (to say the least) online nowadays due to the pandemic, which makes moderators' jobs much more difficult (more precisely: many members are going a bit nuts and misusing the forum for venting frustrations). So please cut the mods some slack even if you think they may have been unjust to you, for they are often working under a lot of pressure - again - for free and for everyone, with the best intentions. And know that a lot of the forum weight rests precisely on David's and Terry's shoulders.

Cheers, have a nice sunday & don't let spammers provoke disharmony on the forum again ;)
Ivan

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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Yuri » 13 Apr 2021 12:56

OpanaPointer wrote:
06 Apr 2021 18:34
Around the late '90s I met a professor from Moscow U. who was at Purdue as a guest. He had been very surprised to find that the Western Allies had mounted a large scale invasion across the Channel. He had been taught that D-Day was an event no larger than Dieppe.
I believe it was a "fake" professor and there are the following grounds for such a statement.
I have been living in Moscow since 1993 and, in 1993, I watched the TV series The World at War on the Moscow television channel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War
Worldatwar.jpg
Then, in 1978-79, a 20-episode Soviet-American film was released, which in the United States was called "The Unknown War", and in the USSR "The Great Patriotic War". The 17th episode of this film was called "The Allies", which shows footage of the Normandy landings in June 1944. This film was shown in the USSR on the national (all-Union channel) and more than once. In addition, the USSR created a version for showing in cinemas and showed it in the best cinemas. For example, I watched it in Tashkent (I lived there until 1993) in a 4,500-seat cinema. on a huge screen.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0 ... %B0%D0%BB).
Unknown_War.jpg
Further, next to Moscow University is the largest library in the USSR, where the professor could get memoirs of Eisenhower or Churchill if he wanted. Further, I can't say for 100%, but with a 99.999% probability I can say that these books are in the library of Moscow University, and thus your professor could have ordered the books of Eisenhower and Churchill without lifting the professor's ass from chair.
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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by OpanaPointer » 13 Apr 2021 13:35

Yuri wrote:
13 Apr 2021 12:56
OpanaPointer wrote:
06 Apr 2021 18:34
Around the late '90s I met a professor from Moscow U. who was at Purdue as a guest. He had been very surprised to find that the Western Allies had mounted a large scale invasion across the Channel. He had been taught that D-Day was an event no larger than Dieppe.
I believe it was a "fake" professor and there are the following grounds for such a statement.
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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by Yuri » 13 Apr 2021 15:18

OpanaPointer wrote:
13 Apr 2021 13:35
Yuri wrote:
13 Apr 2021 12:56
OpanaPointer wrote:
06 Apr 2021 18:34
Around the late '90s I met a professor from Moscow U. who was at Purdue as a guest. He had been very surprised to find that the Western Allies had mounted a large scale invasion across the Channel. He had been taught that D-Day was an event no larger than Dieppe.
I believe it was a "fake" professor and there are the following grounds for such a statement.
LOL
Yes, LOL.

Operation Overlord - the Normandy landings in June 1944, the struggle to expand the bridgehead and open a second front in France are described in Volume 9, Chapter 10, part 2 of the official Soviet History of World War II (volume 9 was published in 1978).
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Here I give only a few pages with data on the number of troops, aircraft and naval forces involved in Operation Overlord.
09ИВМВ_p0238-239-242.jpg
On other pages, we can read how the operation took place, including the following: air landings (82nd and 101st divisions), artillery processing of German positions by naval artillery, air bombardment (how many warships, how many combat aircraft and how many tons of ammunition were fired at the enemy), landing on beaches, the struggle to expand the bridgehead and consolidate success, and much more.
Finally on page 250 we read:
"The landing of the American-British forces in Normandy, which meant the opening of a second front in Western Europe, was the largest amphibious operation of strategic importance during the Second World War."

It follows that the professor has deceived you: that is, he is a liar. Why he lied doesn't matter.
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Re: How does your country view WWII?

Post by OpanaPointer » 13 Apr 2021 17:33

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