Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

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Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 13 May 2015 13:26

Hello All

Who can help to located the St bunkers in the sea-side from the harbor opening till Stp Tirpitz ,
I have several picture's of 680 and 667 but can't pin point them exact :idea:

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by myt1prod » 13 May 2015 23:49

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... hilit=tank

Hi Jos
I guess most remaining bunkers of the landfront can be found in this topic or the link in it to a kmz-file I've once made

edit: :roll: Owh... 'seafront' not 'landfront'... anyway perhaps usefull too

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 14 May 2015 08:36

Merci Jean

Here some picture from Benny Vermeiren , Cote Belge 1940/44 and a Allied report .

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 14 May 2015 08:51

This one from Jean, place known but not the bunkertype
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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by pierrot » 14 May 2015 14:07

Hello Jos,

East of the port entrance you have 4 x R612 equipped with the old guns 7.5cm (p) of the former MKB Saltzwedel alt, 2 x R669 with 15.5cm 414(f) and 1 x R631.

Inside the Stp Dietl, just west of the port entrance we have a Pak gun (5cm of 7.5cm) but I am not sure this one was put inside a St regelbau.
Inside Stp Brandenburg, next to the well known observation bunker with the scheinwerfer on top, there was a St Schartestand for a 10.5cm gun most probably a R612.
To find the next schartestande (without taking account of the MKB Kursaal, off course) we have to go till the Stp Hindenburg where we find there 2 x R667 (N23 and N71) and 1 x R612 (N35) (these are the number from my own inventory)
More to the west, inside the Stp Ludendorf, we have 1 x R612 (O7) and 1 x R680 (O93).

See the small sketch hereunder with the position and line of fire of the schartestande of Stp Hindenburg and Ludendorf
Schartenstande Oostende.jpg
Photo 1 & 2 from Jos: R667 (N23)
Photo 3 : R612 (N35)
Photo 4: R612 probably (O7) but not 100% sure
Photo 5: R680 (O93)

Gr.

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 14 May 2015 14:13

A complete answer , thank you again . :thumbsup:

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 20 Aug 2016 16:00

Could this be the same gun bunker as N 35, picture is from Beeldbank Oostende.
Maybe wishfull thinking but what the thing up the roof of the observation bunker ??

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by pierrot » 20 Aug 2016 17:25

Hello Jos,

Not it is not the same. For me it is the bunker H1 from Stp Brandenburg, a 612 with a 10.5cm gun Inside.
The 10.5cm is given by the map hereunder. The bunker is described in the inventory of 1945 to be a gun bunker with munition rooms, and with a small brick construction on the roof. Bunker blown up by the Germans in september 1944. Demolition autorisation granted on 4th of July 1945 and destroyed by Contractor Amery together with 3 other bunkers in the vicinity.
No trace however of 10.5 cm LAG gun in the gliederung, nor in the Heer, nor in the Kriegsmarine listing.

Hereunder a picture taken from Inside the same bunker.

Gr.

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Brandenburg H1.jpg
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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 20 Aug 2016 17:43

Thanks Pierre

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by myt1prod » 20 Aug 2016 20:11

for me the thing on the roof of the observationbunker is a Scheinwerfer aimed straight at the sky

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by pierrot » 20 Aug 2016 20:24

Hi Jean,

Yes on top of the leitstand of the M.A.A.204 on the background of the picture, it is a 120 or 150 cm Scheinwerfer, it is correct but we talked about the schartestand on the foreground that has a small brick emplacement on the roof.

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by myt1prod » 20 Aug 2016 20:29

Hi Pierrot

I've noticed you were talking about the bunker in the foreground...
I only wanted to reply on Jos' question asking about the thing on the observationbunker in the background

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by jopaerya » 20 Aug 2016 20:50

Thanks you both Gents

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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by Von Kluck » 11 Apr 2021 17:42

Hello
Inside Stp Hindenburg an observation/command post was built in front of the galleries of the Royal Palace Hotel (not to be confused with the Koninklijke Gaanderijen) next to the R612. This bunker looks a little bit like a KM Leitstand. However this place was also the location of WWI battery Gneisenau II. So I guess this could be its Leitstand which was not destroyed during the interbellum .
There is another Regelbau at the end of the galleries close to the R667. It makes me think to a R515 with its flanking wall. But I have serious doubt about that as the Scharte should then be oriented straight ahead toward the sea.
Any additions or corrections are welcome.
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Re: Seafront of Stp.Gr Ostende

Post by myt1prod » 13 Apr 2021 08:19

bunker oostende kustbeeldbank.JPG
another view of this bunker I've posted earlier.

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