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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by Rob Stuart » 18 May 2021 18:22

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Fontessa, thanks very much for this. I'm a little puzzled by one aspect, however:

Hiryu’s Zero pilots claimed to have destroyed 21 enemy aircraft, including 2 which were unconfirmed (“not sure”):

12 Hurricanes (including 2 shared with Akagi’s Zeros)
1 Spitfire
8 Swordfish

This adds up to 21, but only 1 of the 2 unconfirmed claims is identified. Is there no indication as to whether the 2nd unconfirmed claim was for a Hurricane, a Swordfish or the Spitfire?

Thanks again,

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Post by fontessa » 18 May 2021 18:42

Hello Rob,
Rob Stuart wrote:
18 May 2021 18:22
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Fontessa, thanks very much for this. I'm a little puzzled by one aspect, however:

Hiryu’s Zero pilots claimed to have destroyed 21 enemy aircraft, including 2 which were unconfirmed (“not sure”):

12 Hurricanes (including 2 shared with Akagi’s Zeros)
1 Spitfire
8 Swordfish

This adds up to 21, but only 1 of the 2 unconfirmed claims is identified. Is there no indication as to whether the 2nd unconfirmed claim was for a
Sorry, I made a mistake. I would like to correct as the below.

飛竜戦闘機隊_コロンボ_訂正.jpg

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Post by Rob Stuart » 18 May 2021 21:09

Okay, that's perfect now. Thanks very much!!

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 18 May 2021 21:31

Hello Fontessa
Thanks for the information regarding Ume were any of the officers amongst those wounded?
Best regards Ian :roll:

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Post by fontessa » 18 May 2021 21:49

Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
18 May 2021 21:31
Hello Fontessa
Thanks for the information regarding Ume were any of the officers amongst those wounded?
Best regards Ian :roll:
I would like to add as the below;
fontessa wrote:
18 May 2021 01:09
被害 Damage
梅 Ume
戦死77名 77 killed
重軽傷36名 36 injured

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戦死77名 77 killed (Including 5 Officers and NCOs)
重軽傷36名 36 injured (Including 4 Officers and NCOs)

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 19 May 2021 03:03

Hello Fontessa,
Thanks for that any of the those listed amongst those 4 officers wounded?
Kind regards Ian

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Post by Berend » 19 May 2021 18:23

Hello Fontessa,

this is Peter's reply to your latest posts regarding the sinking of the destroyer Kuretake:

“Many thanks for this additional information. I’ve changed references in the published TROMs from Kurogane to Tetsu for 10th Division and 10th Infantry Regiment- presume the latter is correct.

The identity of Enoshima Maru 江ノ島丸is definitely correct. The ship was a 2A standard ship built by Mitsubishi Jukogyo at Kobe as yard number 675 for NYK and completed 12/43. The Official number was 50610 and gross tonnage was 6933.

It’s very useful to know the 10th Division travelled on Enoshima Maru, Kenzui Maru and Daii Maru and that these ships can be confirmed in TAMA-36. It would be useful to know if you have any idea what troops Brazil Maru and Encho Maru carried and what the Army records show as to departure times? As already advised I think all these ships sailed together initially as well as Juichisei Maru (Hoshi Maru No.11) that carried army equipment not troops and went to Aparri as well as Enoshima Maru.

With regards to the movements of the small auxiliary subchasers and picket boats after Kuretake’s sinking some were already at sea and some were in port. For example Showa Maru No.2, Kochi Maru and Kiyo Maru departed Port Sanpioquinto, 29th December at 1500 and arrived at Takao the following day (30/12) and then presumably left (except Showa Maru No.2) to assist in search for Kuretake’s survivors and to hunt USS Razorback. It is unclear if these ships were escorting any vessel, and if so what was the vessel.”

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Post by fontessa » 20 May 2021 07:04

Hello Berend,
Berend wrote:
19 May 2021 18:23
this is Peter's reply to your latest posts regarding the sinking of the destroyer Kuretake:
The identity of Enoshima Maru 江ノ島丸 is definitely correct. The ship was a 2A standard ship built by Mitsubishi Jukogyo at Kobe as yard number 675 for NYK and completed 12/43. The Official number was 50610 and gross tonnage was 6933.
I suspect she didn’t carry 10th Division, if we accept Enoshima Maru TROM;
- She departed Takao on unclear dato and arrived at サブタン Sabtang Island (Bashi Channel) on December 14th
- She departed サブタン Sabtang Island (Bashi Channel) on December 16th and arrived at Takao on December 29th
The 1st picuture shows the outline of Enoshima Maru on the same Web Page. From it I can say that we are discussing about the same "Enoshima Maru". The 2nd picture shows Enoshima Maru TROM and it shows she was 2A standard ship completed on 20 December 1943. The problem is whether or not to accept the move of late December, which is shown in blue. Of course this could be a typo.


江島丸Registration.jpg

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Berend wrote:
19 May 2021 18:23
this is Peter's reply to your latest posts regarding the sinking of the destroyer Kuretake:
It would be useful to know if you have any idea what troops Brazil Maru and Encho Maru carried and what the Army records show as to departure times? As already advised I think all these ships sailed together initially as well as Juichisei Maru (Hoshi Maru No.11) that carried army equipment not troops and went to Aparri as well as Enoshima Maru.
Unfortunately I can’t find any relation between 10th Division and them.
The below is the transportation detail of 10th Division that I have learned so far.
https://www.heiwakinen.go.jp/wp-content ... _148_1.pdf
有馬山丸 Arimasan Maru (Mota-35)
- 10th Division Headquarters
- 2nd and 3rd Battalions / 39 Infantry Regiment
- 10th Reconnaissance Regiment
- 2nd Battalion / 10th Field Artillery Regiment
- 10th Engineer Unit
- Others
大威丸 Daii Maru
- 63rd Infantry Regiment Main Force (Incleding 63rd Infantry Regiment I fantry Gun Company)
- 4th Company / 2nd Battalion / 10th Transport Regiment
- Others
乾端丸 Kenzui aru
- 39th Infantry Regiment Main Force
- 2nd Battalion / 10th Infantry Regiment
- 3rd Battalion / 63rd Infantry Regiment
- Part of 10th Field Artillery Regiment
- 10th Transport Regiment Main Force
- Others
江ノ島丸 Enoshima Maru
- 10th Infantry Regiment Main Force
- Part of 10th Field Artillery Regiment
- Automobile Company / 10th Transport Regiment
- Draft Horse Company / 10th Transport Regiment
- Others (Including 10th Division Ordnance Duty Unit)

The below War Diary shows Infantry Gun Company / 63rd Infantry Regiment was carried by 大威丸.
https://www.jacagr.archives.o.jp/aj/met ... 3071639900 Page12

63聯隊歩兵砲中隊.gif
Berend wrote:
19 May 2021 18:23
this is Peter's reply to your latest posts regarding the sinking of the destroyer Kuretake:
With regards to the movements of the small auxiliary subchasers and picket boats after Kuretake’s sinking some were already at sea and some were in port. For example Showa Maru No.2, Kochi Maru and Kiyo Maru departed Port Sanpioquinto, 29th December at 1500 and arrived at Takao the following day (30/12) and then presumably left (except Showa Maru No.2) to assist in search for Kuretake’s survivors and to hunt USS Razorback. It is unclear if these ships were escorting any vessel, and if so what was the vessel.”
Understood.

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About the article on POW 研究会 POW Research Network Japan Web Page;
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I asked the following questions. I don't know if it will be answered, but I will upload them when I got the answers.
Q1: Do you know the convoy Number, for example, MATA-〇〇?
Q2: Do you know the names of two tankers?
Q3: Do you know the names of three sub-chasers?
Q4: Can you tell me your source if you don't mind?
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Q1: Do you know the convoy Number, for example, MATA-〇〇?
Unfortunately No.
Q2: Do you know the names of two tankers?
Unfortunately No.
Q3: Do you know the names of three sub-chasers?
Unfortunately No.
Q4: Can you tell me your source if you don't mind?
“Death on the Hellships: Prisoners at Sea in the Pacific War” by Gregory F. Michno, Naval Institute Press
“Father Found: Life and Death as a prisoner of the Japanese in World War 2” by Duane Heisinger, Xulon
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12 May 2021 05:10
The number of ships that departed is not clear. The author seems to think the 2 tankers are the Enoura and Brazil Maru. If not there were 4 ships but the author then continues mentioning 3 ships were being escorted.
I asked the author and got the answer;
“3 ships” was typo and 4 ships “Enoura Maru, Blazil Maru and two Tankers” is correct.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by fontessa » 23 May 2021 01:14

Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
19 May 2021 03:03
Hello Fontessa,
Thanks for that any of the those listed amongst those 4 officers wounded?
Questions for confirmation.
Do you need the names of the officers wounded?
If so, there is no record about them.
(It may be true to assume that an officer with a long time to the next appointment had been injured.)

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 28 May 2021 19:02

Hello Fontessa
Yes I do! that's
unfortunate perhaps one day!
Best regards Ian

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 28 May 2021 19:10

Hello Fontessa
Any information regarding the Kuwa and Yanagi casualties same information is also required.
I know of 2 being captured who were ratings and the others losses though? all the senior officers were killed on the Kuwa and regarding the Yanagi when strafed suffered 21 killed and 40 plus wounded were any of the senior officers wounded and I know of one being killed!
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Post by fontessa » 29 May 2021 14:19

Hello Ian,
fontessa wrote:
23 May 2021 01:14
Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
19 May 2021 03:03
Hello Fontessa,
Thanks for that any of the those listed amongst those 4 officers wounded?
Questions for confirmation.
Do you need the names of the officers wounded?
If so, there is no record about them.
(It may be true to assume that an officer with a long time to the next appointment had been injured.)
fontessa
I got “Yes” to my question above.
I wold like to upload the result about Une.

Before that, I would like to make one correction.
fontessa wrote:
18 May 2021 01:09
UME
Engineer Officers
(EO) LTJG (Eng.S.D.) / LTJG (Eng.S.D.) NAKAMURA Shinkichi 中村普吉: 3 May 1944 - 28 June 1944
LTJG (Eng.S.D.) / LTJG (Eng.S.D.) NAKAMURA Shinkichi 中村普吉: 28 June 1944 - 31 January 1945 (Survived) (19 C12070754400)
I depended on 渡辺博 WatanabeHiroshi’s TROM for his fate. It says that 中村普吉 was attached to Yokosuka Naval Distinct on 22 February 1945. This transfer should be listed in 横須賀鎮守府辞令公報 Yokosuka Naval Distinkt Jirei Koho , so I checked it. But could find nothing. So中村普吉 didn’t survive the Ume sinking. I would like to correct as the below;
Engineer Officers
(EO) LTJG (Eng.S.D.) / LTJG (Eng.S.D.) NAKAMURA Shinkichi 中村普吉: 3 May 1944 - 28 June 1944
LTJG (Eng.S.D.) / LTJG (Eng.S.D.) / LCDR* NAKAMURA Shinkichi 中村普吉: 28 June 1944 - 31 January 1945 (KIA) (19 C12070754400)

For several officers, I checked personnel changes for major officers.
When an officer leaves a post, he usually takes the next post designated on the same day as 吉田正義 and 梶間健次郎. If for some reason such as treatment in hospital, the officer couldn't work in the next post immediately, he was temporarily attached to 鎮守府 Naval Distinct as 中島晋. From my experience so far, I think “attached to Naval Distinct” is at most 2 - 3 months. In the case of 中島晋, it reachs to 6 months. This is clearly too long and it's acceptable to assume that he was one of 4 wounded Officers and NCOs.
43rd Destroyer Division
YOSHIDA Masayoshi 吉田正義
- 43rd Destroyer Division Commanding Officer: 9 January 1945 - 1 March 1945
- 41st Destroyer Division Commanding Officer: 1 March 1945 - 5 October 1945
KAJIMA Kenjiro 梶間健次郎
- 43rd Destroyer Division Crew: 15 July 1944 - 30 January 1945
- 43rd Destroyer Division Supply Officer: 30 January 1945 - 5 October 1945
Ume
ONISHI Yoshiharu 大西快治
- Ume Commadig Officer: 28 June 1944 - 22 February 1945
- Attached to Yokosuka Naval Distinct: 22 February 1945 - ???
- Attached to Naval Anti Submarine School / Instructor: ??? - 15 May 1945
- Yokosuka Assault Unitb Special Attack Officer: 15 May 1945 - ???
NATSUO Kaiji 松尾敬次
- Ume Torpedo Officer: 28 June 1944 - 20 February 1945
- Attached to Naval Torpedo School / Instructor: 20 February 1945 - 30 April 1945
- Odake Equipping Officwe: 30 April 1945 - 15 May 1945
NAKAJIMA Susumu 中島晋
- Ume Navigation Officer: 28 June 1944 - 25 February 1945
- Attached to Kure Naval Distinct: 25 February 1945 - 10 July 1945
- Hibiki Navigation Officer: 10 July 1945 - ???
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
28 May 2021 19:10
Any information regarding the Kuwa and Yanagi casualties same information is also required.
I know of 2 being captured who were ratings and the others losses though?
Did they become POWs in the land battle at Ormoc?

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 29 May 2021 20:05

Hello Fontessa
According to my source he said they were rescued after the sinking of the Kuwa! thanks about the Ume clears that issue up and the others I have alluded too as well as time permits I would be most grateful as usual yours grovelling as usual! :roll: :thumbsup:

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 19 Jun 2021 19:19

Hello Fontessa
Any information on the Yanagi and Kuwa losses and survivors?
Kind Regards :roll: Ian

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Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 20 Jun 2021 04:38

No info on YANAGI, but KUWA suffered about half her crew KIA, including all senior officers:

KUWA
Commanding Officer: CDR / CAPT* YAMASHITA Masamichi (53) (KIA)
Torpedo Officer: LT / LCDR* TOJI Yoshimitsu (70) (KIA)
Gunnery Officer: LT / LCDR* KITAMURA Tetsu (68) (KIA)
Navigator: LT / LCDR* KODAIRA Kyoto (71) (KIA)
Chief Engineer: LT / LCDR* MURASHIGE Sadaichi (Spec. Duty) (KIA)
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