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JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 08 Apr 2021 16:19

Hello Everybody.

I'm trying to find a copy of a joint chiefs of Staff memo sent to FDR in 1944. I can't find it at the FDR library website or in the Official histories. Does anyone have an idea where I can get a copy of it?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 11 Apr 2021 02:47

Which memo? Weren't more than one sent that year? Have a date, or subject, or other identification?

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 11 Apr 2021 17:15

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
11 Apr 2021 02:47
Which memo? Weren't more than one sent that year? Have a date, or subject, or other identification?
Thanks for the response. Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but its

JCS 718/1, 16 Mar 44, title: Effect of "Unconditional Surrender" Policy on German Morale.

We have FDR's response on April 1st but its not printed in the Foreign Relations Documentary history. Nor does Matloff go into much detail in his "Strategic Planning for Coalition warfare 1943-1944". A search of the FDR library files turned up zero. And in general, I'm just wondering how you access the JSC files. The national archives are confusing.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 11 Apr 2021 18:10

Not a clue how to access all that. Been running a construction business the past 27 years and not been able to do real research.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 11 Apr 2021 18:13

Thanks!

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 12 Apr 2021 15:19

Yer welcome Lol. Im surprised someone with experience there has not jumped in.

I thought my copy of Pogues bio of Marshal might have a citation, but no joy.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Richard Anderson » 12 Apr 2021 16:02

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
12 Apr 2021 15:19
Yer welcome Lol. Im surprised someone with experience there has not jumped in.

I thought my copy of Pogues bio of Marshal might have a citation, but no joy.
Marshall was not Chairman, Leahy was. See:

NARA II, RG 218, Records of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Records of the Chairman 1942-70, formerly security-classified correspondence, memorandums, and messages of JCS Chairmen Adm. William D. Leahy, 1942-48.
"Is all this pretentious pseudo intellectual citing of sources REALLY necessary? It gets in the way of a good, spirited debate, destroys the cadence." POD, 6 October 2018

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 12 Apr 2021 18:55


NARA II, RG 218, Records of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Records of the Chairman 1942-70, formerly security-classified correspondence, memorandums, and messages of JCS Chairmen Adm. William D. Leahy, 1942-48.
Much thanks. This should help me a lot in getting a copy of the memo.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 13 Apr 2021 00:50

Richard Anderson wrote:
12 Apr 2021 16:02
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
12 Apr 2021 15:19
Yer welcome Lol. Im surprised someone with experience there has not jumped in.

I thought my copy of Pogues bio of Marshal might have a citation, but no joy.
Marshall was not Chairman, Leahy was. See:
I don't have a bio of Leahy. Thought there might be a clue in the book I do have.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 14 Apr 2021 20:39

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
13 Apr 2021 00:50
Richard Anderson wrote:
12 Apr 2021 16:02
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
12 Apr 2021 15:19
Yer welcome Lol. Im surprised someone with experience there has not jumped in.

I thought my copy of Pogues bio of Marshal might have a citation, but no joy.
Marshall was not Chairman, Leahy was. See:
I don't have a bio of Leahy. Thought there might be a clue in the book I do have.

I looked at the Leahy book. "I was there". He's rather vague about the subject. which is true for almost everything.

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by Richard Anderson » 18 Apr 2021 13:41

rcocean wrote:
14 Apr 2021 20:39
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
13 Apr 2021 00:50
Richard Anderson wrote:
12 Apr 2021 16:02
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
12 Apr 2021 15:19
Yer welcome Lol. Im surprised someone with experience there has not jumped in.

I thought my copy of Pogues bio of Marshal might have a citation, but no joy.
Marshall was not Chairman, Leahy was. See:
I don't have a bio of Leahy. Thought there might be a clue in the book I do have.

I looked at the Leahy book. "I was there". He's rather vague about the subject. which is true for almost everything.
That is constrained by being an autobiography and by postwar secrecy. You would do better probably with O'Brien's The Second Most Powerful Man in the World.
"Is all this pretentious pseudo intellectual citing of sources REALLY necessary? It gets in the way of a good, spirited debate, destroys the cadence." POD, 6 October 2018

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Re: JSC Memos

Post by rcocean » 18 Apr 2021 18:53

That is constrained by being an autobiography and by postwar secrecy. You would do better probably with O'Brien's The Second Most Powerful Man in the World.
Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered it.

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