Historische Märsche

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Historische Märsche

Post by Sdt » 02 Apr 2006 20:25

[Topic title corrected by the host, Ivan Ž.]

I have this nice potpourri performed by Musikkorps der 11. Panzer-Grenadier-Division.

Can someone identify the marches?

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Post by behemoth » 04 Apr 2006 17:12

One of my neighbors came from Germany after the war. He may be framilliar with those. I will ask his opinion when the time is conveniant. I listened again and again. Huge musical brain teaser....

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Post by Sdt » 04 Apr 2006 18:37

Yep, I agree, quite difficult.

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Post by Fubbik » 10 Apr 2006 19:24

The sound quality is appaling, but I heard this:

Fanfaren der Feldtrompeter und Heerpauker
Marsch der Landsknechte (the first with fifes)
Fanfares for the cavalry
Marsch der Querpfeifer
Geusenlied
Marsch der Finnländischen Reiterei
Fanfare der Pappenheimer
Pappenheimer Marsch
Prinz Eugen
Zapfenstreichmarsch from the 17th century
Der Coburger
Präsentiermarsch der deutschen Marine
Marsch des schwäbischen Kreisregiments
Fanfares for trumpets and kettledrums, not identified

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Post by nicagaf » 10 Apr 2006 21:49

Fubbik, that's great!

Could you give some additional info about Geusenlied? Is there any vocal version (I ask because it' called Geusenlied)?

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Post by Fubbik » 11 Apr 2006 10:28

Geusenlied is not the title, it should really be "a Geusenlied", since the Geusen (the beggars) had many songs. I don´t think the title of this one is preserved. It is just known as Geusenlied, but try the German net and use Geusen as a search word. But beware, there are many modern songs known as Geusenlieder.

This Geusenlied hails from the Dutch rebellion. 1582 is stated as the year it was first known.

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Post by Sdt » 11 Apr 2006 15:24

Thanks for ids Fubbik :D

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Apr 2006 17:11

The chronological medley "Historische Märsche" was composed in 1890 by Emil Kaiser (1853-1929) and it is the most important German military march medley of all time. It was recorded numerous times throughout the entire XX century. This was its standard list of marches:

XV century
- Fanfaren der Feldtrompeter und Heerpauker
- Marsch der Landsknechte
XVI century
- Fanfare der Reiterei
- Marsch der Querpfeifer
- Geusenlied
XVII century
- Finska rytteriets marsch
- Fanfare der Pappenheimer
- Marsch der Pappenheimer
XVIII century
- Prinz Eugen
- Alter Zapfenstreich
- Coburger-Josias-Marsch
- Mars voor de gewone pas nr. 1 * should be in the XIX century group
- Marsch des schwäbischen Kreis-Regiments Durlach-Baden
- Marsch aus der Zeit Friedrichs des Großen
- Der alte Dessauer
- Bayrischer Präsentiermarsch
- Marsch des kursächsischen Regiments „Churfürst“
- Paradepost der berittenen Truppen
- Hohenfriedberger Marsch
XIX century
- Alter Jägermarsch
- Pariser Einzugsmarsch
- Radetzky-Marsch
- Düppeler-Schanzen-Sturmmarsch
- Bayrischer Defiliermarsch
- Präsentiermarsch der kaiserlichen I. Matrosen-Division
- Lockmarsch
- [optional march from the XIX century or a contemporary one]

The last march was occasionally changed; for example, during WWII, band of the "Großdeutschland" Regiment played "Wir fahren gegen Engelland" by Herms Niel at the end, Leibstandarte played "Badenweiler-Marsch", etc. Also, "Präsentiermarsch der kaiserlichen I. Matrosen-Division" was sometimes skipped, and "Bayrischer Defiliermarsch" was replaced during the war with "Die Wacht am Rhein". In the post-WWII recording by the 11. Panzergrenadierdivision, "Paradepost", "Pariser Einzugsmarsch" and "Bayrischer Defiliermarsch" were skipped and the medley was closed with "Kaiser-Friedrich-Marsch".

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Re: Historische Märsche

Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 Nov 2020 13:03

The complete (and, in my opinion, the best) recording of the medley, made by Carl Woitschach's band in 1930 for Ultraphon, can be heard here:





All six parts were also released on the Schallplatten-Volksverband label, under the title "Die Märsche der Jahrhunderte". Woitschach re-recorded the entire medley in 1933, for Telefunken (which is a bit strange since Telefunken acquired, and then reproduced, the Ultraphon recordings; why they needed another - basically identical - recording of the medley is beyond me).

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