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Die englische Heirat (1934)

Post by Dutto1 » 14 Oct 2011 00:58

Hilde Hildebrand singing "Liebe ist ein Geheimnis" in the 1934 film "Die englische Heirat".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2hHZ-965EI

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by Auceps » 05 Jan 2012 19:40

Ivan Ž. wrote:SOUNDTRACK
The last unknown march is Marsch der Garde-Kürassiere [Armeemarsch III, Nr. 55] (Erbprinzessin Charlotte von Sachsen-Meiningen)

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by kashash » 27 Jan 2012 21:13

What are the marches called starting from 1:13:40 ?
Especially the one at 1:23:00, it's my favorite :P
First one I know it's a Königgrätzer Marsch
And the last one I also know it's a Badenweiler Marsch

So the names of these marches would be much appreciated!

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by Ivan Ž. » 28 Jan 2012 03:21

kashash, please see the first post of this topic.
Auceps wrote:The last unknown march is Marsch der Garde-Kürassiere [Armeemarsch III, Nr. 55] (Erbprinzessin Charlotte von Sachsen-Meiningen)
Thank you for the identification!

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Re: Der Sieg des Glaubens (1933)

Post by WorldWarIIFanatic » 20 May 2012 09:28

Beginning of Der Sieg Des Glaubens (Victory of Faith)? You also hear it in Triumph of the Will, but this version actually has words at the beginning. What's the name of it? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Der Sieg des Glaubens (1933)

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by TonyCas562 » 17 Jun 2012 10:58

HELLO TO ALL!

Can anyone help me identify this march from the one and only "Triumph des Willens"? It is in the scene entitled: "Nighttime Rally of Political Leaders". The march begins at the cut where the camera pans down from the night-time sky onto Albert Speer's "Sea of Flags" at the Nuremberg Rally and the tune to the march goes something like this:

D-duh-duh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duuh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duh! D-d-duh-duh-d-DUH! DUH! D-DUH!"

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by Ivan Ž. » 17 Jun 2012 16:33

TonyCas562 wrote:D-duh-duh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duuh...d-d-duh-duh-d-duh-duh! D-d-duh-duh-d-DUH! DUH! D-DUH!"
Ivan Ž. wrote:00:56:58 Kürassiermarsch „Großer Kurfürst“ [AM III, 142] (Walter von Simon)
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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by TonyCas562 » 17 Jun 2012 19:41

Thank you very much, Ivan Ž.!!!! :D
Wishing you all good things!
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Post by camaysar » 31 Jul 2012 21:17

Greetings,

Regarding Ernst Hanfstaengl, he was known mostly as a composer of marches and fight songs (for his alma mater Harvard University). He is credited for "Oberaufsicht und Musik" in the titles of Hans Westmar. But there is another music credit: Becce, for "Musikleitung u-Mustrierung". Musikleitung means conductor, but I am not familiar with the term "Mustrierung". Perhaps someone here can help provide the meaning.

Becce is undoubtedly Giuseppe Becce, a serious classical musician and long-time composer for German cinema. The quite moving opening theme of Hans Westmar does not sound like the kind of music usually identified with Hanfstaengl. I believe it is possibly written by Becce. Can anyone provide some knowledge of this issue? Thank you. Great forum, by the way!
labwizard wrote:The Jugend trauert version I personally prefer is that of the Hans Westmar film itself.
I agree that the opening music of Hans Westmar is a superior composition. I questioned the authorship of Hanfstaengl, but a comment on a YouTube post of the piece says: [More than questionable quote removed. Please refrain yourself from quoting unknown YouTube users. Ivan Ž.]

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Re: Triumph des Willens (1935)

Post by Dieter33 » 20 Feb 2014 20:32

Ivan Ž. wrote:II. SA-Lieder-Potpourri (Martin Ewers)
Hallo,

so there is a first SA-Lieder-Potpourri ? On which record ?

Greetz

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Feb 2014 21:30

camaysar wrote: The quite moving opening theme of Hans Westmar does not sound like the kind of music usually identified with Hanfstaengl. I believe it is possibly written by Becce. Can anyone provide some knowledge of this issue? Thank you.
It is absolutely not Becce's, it is a well known Hanfstaengl's composition.
Dieter33 wrote:so there is a first SA-Lieder-Potpourri ? On which record ?
The first "SA-Lieder-Potpourri" was composed by Harry Seidel and can be found on several records: Telefunken A 1527 (Woitschach), Kristall 2081 (Woitschach), Hakenkreuz-Platte 2002 (Fuhsel), Gloria GO-10850 (SS-Standarte 36), Grammophon 2 25202 (S. Sturmbann 12), Grammophon C 2409 (LSSAH).

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Der Hauptmann von Köpenick (1931)

Post by sal3891 » 04 May 2014 19:31

Greetings, here is a clip from Richard Osward's 1931 film, Der Hauptmann von Köpenick-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jADbexqfQSQ

I know this film is really from the Weimar Republic, rather than the Third Reich, but music is music.
Can anyone here help me identify the march played during the credits?

The musical director is not credited, so I do not get the impression this march was written specially for the film.

Some of you may have seen the later film versions of Der Hauptmann von Köpenick, from 1956 and 1997-
this particular march is not heard in either of them, only the first 1931 film.

If anyone recognises the tune, please let me know.
Thanks.

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Re: Der Hauptmann von Köpenick (1931)

Post by Ivan Ž. » 04 May 2014 20:58

All I can tell at the moment is that it has Bellmann's "Wanke nicht, mein Vaterland!" (Schleswig-Holstein meerumschlungen...) melody in trio (it starts at 1:01).

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Re: Der Hauptmann von Köpenick (1931)

Post by sal3891 » 04 May 2014 21:39

Ivan, many thanks, an excellent start. The slower melody played in that opening march scene is beautiful and I'm glad to have a name for it now.

If anyone has any ideas about the faster first tune, please share. A flattened 6th chord can be heard at the end of the B section of the mystery march, which isn't something you hear in every German march, (and is more commonplace in other musical styles such as American ragtime.)

The music certainly has a good humour to it, and it think it is well-suited to this film.

The use of the Schleswig-Holstein meerumschlungen in the trio interests me. I wonder if this incorporation was just for this particular arrangement, or if the mystery march was in fact originally written with this as the trio?

It was of course quite common for these composers to incorporate pre-existing tunes in their marches, as did Piefke with the Hohenfriedeberger in the slow section of his own Königgrätzer Marsch.

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