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Post by Alexander B. » 04 Sep 2015 03:30

Thanks, Ivan.

You should definitely still show your review of the Grammophon E 10119, your reviews are always packed full with information that I don't know (and they have great pictures). You seem to know a-lot about "Volk, an's Gewehr!", I'd love to see perhaps a more in depth review of it some time.

In a rare occurrence I've got a few different packages showing up all at once, and I have the one good thing about living in America in this hobby working for me at the moment, and have just received a decent shipment of Radiofunken pirate records, which are normally more easily found in America than their Telefunken cousins. Here's a small sampling of the Radiofunken records and a few others.

Radiofunken R 8099

A Telefunken/Ultraphon rip (Ultraphon A 658), with a couple of historic marches.

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Mussinan-Marsch [AM II, 248]
Composer: Carl Carl
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 09.1930
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Deutsche Ultraphon AG, Berlin

Finska rytteriets marsch i 30-åriga kriget
Finnish Title: Suomalaisen ratsuväen marssi 30-vuotisessa sodassa
German Title: Marsch der finnländischen Reiterei aus dem 30-jährigen Kriege (Schwedischer Reitermarsch) [AM II, 211] [AM III, 70]
Composer: Anonym
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 09.1930
Recording Location: Berlin
Record Company: Deutsche Ultraphon AG, Berlin
Radiodisque R 8252

Another rather well ripped copy of a Telefunken recording (Telefunken A 1540). This time we see the "S.A. Chor" of "Mein Schlesierland" censored, perhaps not purposely, to simply "Brass Band with Chorus", and "Oberlausitz, geliebtes Heimatland" with a totally fictional set of performers "Continental Radio Orchestra Quartette and Refrain Solo". It is not known why this label is white, or why its instead called "Radiodisque", perhaps a different intended market?

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Mein Schlesierland [Marsch]
Dedication: Herrn Edmund Heines, Polizeipräsident von Breslau, gewidmet
Composer: Max Rostock
Trio: Schlesierlied (Kehr’ ich einst zur Heimat wieder)/ Composer/Lyricist: Anonym
Vocal Group: SA-Chor, Berlin
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 01.09.1933
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

Oberlausitz, geliebtes Heimatland [Wanderlied]
Composer/Lyricist: Kurt Piehler
Arranger: Hans Bund
Vocalist: Erwin Hartung
Vocal Group: Männerquartett
Instrumental Group: Tanzorchester Hans Bund, Berlin
Recording Date: 03.11.1933
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin
Radiofunken R 8050

A well ripped copy of Carl Woitschach's very popular international potpourri (from Telefunken M 6143). He is uncredited on the Radiofunken label.

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Wir marschieren [Großes Marsch-Potpourri] 1. Teil
Composer: Carl Woitschach
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 30.11.1934
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

Contents: Florentiner Marsch [Fučík], D' Banda kommt [Schild], Schneidige Truppe [Lehnhardt], Kärntner-Lieder-Marsch [Anonym/Seifert], Soldatenleben [Schmeling], Mit Bomben und Granaten [Bilse], Frei weg! [Latann], Radetzky-Marsch [Strauß/Anonym]

Wir marschieren [Großes Marsch-Potpourri] 2. Teil
Composer: Carl Woitschach
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 30.11.1934
Recording Location: Berlin, Sing-Akademie (Unter den Linden 5)
Record Company: Telefunken-Platte GmbH, Berlin

Contents: Bayrischer Defiliermarsch [Scherzer], The British Grenadiers [Anonym], Brucker-Lager-Marsch [Král], San Lorenzo [Silva], Dixie [Anonym], Petersburger Marsch [Anonym], Lockmarsch [Anonym], Unsere Garde [Förster/Großmann]
Gloria GO-10307

This is a great time for me to mention Hugo Scharf's "Wir marschieren", one of my favorite potpourri's in the sense of song selection and rendition. Totally dissimilar to Carl's, and a great addition to anyone's collection.

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Wir marschieren [Soldatenlieder-Potpourri] 1. Teil
Composer: Hugo Scharf
Vocal Group: Männerquartett
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 22.04.1932
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27), Raum IV
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Contents: Morgen will mein Schatz vereissen [Anonym], Soldaten, das sind lust’ge Brüder [Anonym], Drei Lilien [Anonym]

Wir marschieren [Soldatenlieder-Potpourri] 2. Teil
Composer: Hugo Scharf
Vocal Group: Männerquartett
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester Carl Woitschach, Berlin
Recording Date: 22.04.1932
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27), Raum IV
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Contents: O, Straßburg, du wunderschöne Stadt [Anonym], Wie ein stolzer Adler [Spohr/Schütz], Marsch nach Motiven der Oper „Moses“ [Rossini/Widder], Lockmarsch [Anonym], O, Deutschland hoch in Ehren [Pearson/Bauer]
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Post by Fallersleben » 05 Sep 2015 16:22

Telefunken wrote:Grammophon E 10119
Incidentally, in Dt. Grammophon Hauptkatalog 1937 title Rote Husaren (E 10119) is listed as Der rote Husar.

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Grammophon 2 24321

Post by Fallersleben » 05 Sep 2015 21:13

Fanfarenmarsch "Franz Seldte!", composed by Hermann Blume, starts with a loud shouting "Front Heil Franz Seldte!" (Front Heil was the official salute of Stahlhelm members). One strophe, starting with lyrics "Franz Seldte, unser Führer...", is sung two times in a row. Unfortunately there is no information about the lyricist. Well known Grenadiermarsch "Fridericus Rex" was composed by Prussian Ferdinand Radeck in the mid-XIX century. Played with passion, good speed, I like it. Both songs were recorded in 1931 by Stahlhelm-Bundeskapelle Berlin.

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Franz Seldte! [Fanfarenmarsch des Stahlhelms]
Composer: Hermann Blume
Lyricist: Anonym
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Stahlhelm-Bundeskapelle, LV Groß-Berlin
Conductor: Obermusikmeister a. D. Richard Knoch
Recording Date: 1931
Recording Location: Berlin, Hochschule für Musik (Fasanenstraße 1b)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon AG, Berlin

Fridericus Rex [Grenadiermarsch] [AM II, 198]
Composer: Ferdinand Radeck
Trio: Fridericus Rex [Ballade] [Op. 61, Nr. 1]/ Composer: Carl Loewe/ Lyricist: Willibald Alexis
Instrumental Group: Stahlhelm-Bundeskapelle, LV Groß-Berlin
Conductor: Obermusikmeister a. D. Richard Knoch
Recording Date: 1931
Recording Location: Berlin, Hochschule für Musik (Fasanenstraße 1b)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon AG, Berlin
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 Sep 2015 14:52

Just a quick comment: some great records and interesting labels have been added here recently. Thank you for posting, Alex and F.

More later!!

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 19 Sep 2015 08:28

The info has been finally added (this took longer than I expected). I think I spent most time looking for the title "Ist es denn nun wirklich wahr" (refrain "Rummsvidibums..."), for Krome's "Schön ist das Soldatenleben" (by the way, the Kristall and Grammophon versions don't have this song, and both end with "Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuß"). As I already wrote, great records - and, Alex, the label scans indeed look much better than their photographs. Radiofunken/Radiodisque copies are especially interesting. Two of my (many) favourite recordings have been presented now, and those are the aforementioned Kissel's arrangement of "Volk, an's Gewehr!" posted by Alex and the vocal version of "Franz Seldte!" posted by F. Truly excellent recordings, perfectly arranged and performed, which I've listened to numerous times (Kissel's is by no means perfect musically, but the imperfection suits here perfectly; as I wrote: The grimmest recording of the III Reich; I'm surprised the war documentary makers haven't discovered it already and used for the "downfall" scenes).

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Post by Alexander B. » 18 Oct 2015 23:03

Its great to see so much activity in the music section. This past week I've seen more posts than I have in the past 2 months combined!

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Untitled [H-50000/H-50001]

Post by Alexander B. » 27 Oct 2015 22:33

I'm still writing my review for the records I got this shipment (there are many) but I do have a request for assistance on one very odd looking record that I received.

I really don't know where to start with this one, its very plain, and aside from the rights society marking and matrix numbers printed on the label there are no indicators as to where this materialized from. Anyone more experienced than me know what the heck this thing is? Its a standard 25cm shellac disc.

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Horst-Wessel-Marsch
Composer: C. Hager
Trio: Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch!)/ Melody: ?/ Composer: Anonym/ Lyricist: Horst Wessel
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester
Recording Date: 1932/1933
Recording Location: ?
Record Company: ?

Intro: Parademarsch der Spielleute [Anonym], Lockmarsch [Anonym]

Hohenfriedberger Marsch [AM I, 1c] [AM III, 1b]
Composer: Anonym
Instrumental Group: Blasorchester
Recording Date: 1932/1933
Recording Location: ?
Record Company: ?

Intro: Parademarsch der Spielleute [Anonym], Lockmarsch [Anonym]

* C. Hager = Franz Pollak
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Re: Untitled [H-50000/H-50001]

Post by Fallersleben » 12 Nov 2015 13:00

I can't remember having ever seen this label style (no markings under the labels?). Matrix numbers 50000+ I know from Telefunken (promotion and commercial records). You should compare the recordings with other versions from your collection and other serious sources to find out the performer. Record seems to be a rare find!

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Re: Untitled [H-50000/H-50001]

Post by Alexander B. » 15 Nov 2015 21:34

Fallersleben wrote:I can't remember having ever seen this label style (no markings under the labels?). Matrix numbers 50000+ I know from Telefunken (promotion and commercial records). You should compare the recordings with other versions from your collection and other serious sources to find out the performer. Record seems to be a rare find!
I've checked everywhere on it, absolutely nothing besides that high matrix number pressed into the shellac on both sides, but each prefaced with the letter "H". Also there's some raised circles on each side in-front of the matrix numbers, however they simply seem to be part of the molding process. I'll attach some scans.

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Ivan and I have discussed it and another recording of the same "Horst Wessel Marsch" appeared on the "Swastika and Oak leaves" records from Kristall, although on the S.a.O.L label it is wrongly credited as Mr. Bajer's piece, while it is actually another recording of the C. Hager (Franz Pollak) piece that I have on this interesting white label disc. Bajer also had a different piece by the same name and that is where the confusion originates. You can all thank Ivan for that great information! Perhaps if someone has a verified recording of the Swastika and Oak Leaves version we could compare them and see perhaps if this is a variant of the same pressing or indeed a totally different recording?

Also, forgive me but does H. Bajer = Ltg. Hans Bajer ?

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Deutsche Musik 2001

Post by Alexander B. » 11 Dec 2015 04:44

Here is a "Deutsche Musik" flexible record from my collection.

Rather beat up and cracking in the middle, but the content on it sounds surprisingly good for coming off an early flexible record (especially in the condition that is in)

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Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch!)
Melody: ?/ Composer: Anonym
Lyricist: Horst Wessel
Vocal Group: ?
Instrumental Group: Kapelle der SA-Standarte 119, Stuttgart
Conductor: Kapellmeister Willi Franz
Recording Date: ?
Recording Location: Stuttgart
Record Company: Electromusik GmbH, Vaihingen a. F.

Frei weg! [Marsch]
Composer: Carl Latann
Instrumental Group: Kapelle der SA-Standarte 119, Stuttgart
Conductor: Kapellmeister Willi Franz
Recording Date: ?
Recording Location: Stuttgart
Record Company: Electromusik GmbH, Vaihingen a. F.
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Grammophon E 11756

Post by Alexander B. » 20 Dec 2015 05:30

A rather uncommon record with relatively unremembered content from Herms Niel, with lyrics for "Horrido!" written by Heinrich Anacker. Both pieces here are performed with great enthusiasm; the "Horrido!" refrain has great bravado behind it and "Schneidig ist die Infantrie!" has a great fast paced rhythm that is actually rather simple musically but sounds very complex and pleasing to the ear. Both were released in 1942.

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Horrido! [Marschlied]
Composer: Prof. Herms Niel
Lyricist: Heinrich Anacker
Arranger: Erich Gutzeit
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Reichsmusikzug des Reichsarbeitsdienstes, Potsdam-Golm
Conductor: Hauptmusikzugführer Prof. Herms Niel
Recording Date: 09.05.1942
Recording Location: Berlin, Central-Theater (Alte Jakobstraße 30-32)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon GmbH, Berlin

Schneidig ist die Infantrie! [Marsch und Lied]
Composer/Lyricist: Prof. Herms Niel
Vocal Group: Männerchor
Instrumental Group: Reichsmusikzug des Reichsarbeitsdienstes, Potsdam-Golm
Conductor: Hauptmusikzugführer Prof. Herms Niel
Recording Date: 09.05.1942
Recording Location: Berlin, Central-Theater (Alte Jakobstraße 30-32)
Record Company: Deutsche Grammophon GmbH, Berlin
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Re: Grammophon E 11756

Post by Fallersleben » 20 Dec 2015 12:45

Nice record! I have the Grammophon 11732, Horrido! coupled with Marsch der Sturmartillerie.

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Re: Grammophon E 11756

Post by Ivan Ž. » 20 Dec 2015 15:43

A very nice record indeed! :)

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Odeon O-26510

Post by Alexander B. » 20 Dec 2015 20:56

Fallersleben wrote:Nice record! I have the Grammophon 11732, Horrido! coupled with Marsch der Sturmartillerie.
Very lucky man! I can't say I want any more copies of "Horrido!" but that "Marsch der Sturmartillerie" is definitely high on my want list.

The only unit type specific song that competes with the "Marsch der Sturmartillerie" for me is "Nach vorn!" Not quite as marchy as the "Marsch der Sturmartillerie" but definitely a rather original song and it has always been one of my favorites. on the other side "Laßt wehen die Fahnen" is also well performed and based on the original Italian "Inno dell'Asse" (Anthem of the Axis) although it shares no common lyrical message from my extremely limited understanding of Italian and I don't really care much for it personally.

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Laßt wehen die Fahnen [Achsenlied]
Melody: Inno dell'Asse/ Composer: G. Nino Iviglia
Lyricist: Hans Martin Cremer
Arranger: Max Villinger
Vocal Group: Flak-Soldatenchor
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps der Flak-Artillerie
Conductor: Musikmeister Viktor Heidersberger
Recording Date: 02.09.1941
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27), Raum II
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin

Nach vorn! [Marsch der Munitions-Kolonne]
Composer/Lyricist: Robert H. Bork
Vocal Group: Flak-Soldatenchor
Instrumental Group: Musikkorps der Flak-Artillerie
Conductor: Musikmeister Viktor Heidersberger
Recording Date: 02.09.1941
Recording Location: Berlin, Carl Lindström AG (Schlesische Straße 26-27), Raum II
Record Company: Carl Lindström AG, Berlin
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Re: Untitled [H-50000/H-50001]

Post by Fallersleben » 18 Feb 2016 10:17

Alexander B. wrote:Perhaps if someone has a verified recording of the Swastika and Oak Leaves version we could compare them and see perhaps if this is a variant of the same pressing or indeed a totally different recording?
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Hakenkreuz & Eichenlaub Nr. 3
Horst-Wessel-Marsch (Hager) (mx R 133)
Standarten-Kapelle 2 der SA der NSDAP
Leitung: R. Mentzel

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