Haydarpascha rail station

[stevebecker]

Mates,

Can you give any details on what happened to this rail station after it was destroyed by the fire in 1917 and later bombed by the British.

Did the Ottomans move to another rail station or did the Haydarpascha rail station continue to be the jounction of the rail network.

Was the rail line south a double line or single line toward the coast and to Palestine?

Does anyone have a rail map of the Ottoman Empire during the war?

Some one on another site wants to know how the released British PoW's traveled from there camps in the Mountains to be evacuated by sea from either Smyrna or from Istanbul.

Some British accounts mention they left from Smyrna while other give Istanbul?

Cheers

S.B

[Tosun Saral]

I took this photo of Haydarpaşa train station on May 6th 2018 while my last visit to İstanbul. The building was fired some 2 years ago. Now under construction.

[Tosun Saral]

Did the Ottomans move to another rail station or did the Haydarpascha rail station continue to be the jounction of the rail network.

answer: the Haydarpascha rail station continued to be the main station of the Bagdad line with its huge back side rail network.

[stevebecker]

Tosun,

Thank you.

Such an Historic place has a sad history.

Cheers

S.B

[GregSingh]

Unfortunately one of the buildings was used as ammunition storage and the whole place exploded on Sept. 6, 1917; even before British bombed rail facilities. Rail cargo traffic was restored after the WWI, but station building had been in ruins until 1933.

haidarpasha-explosion5.jpg

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Source: http://www.levantineheritage.com

[Tosun Saral]

There was a austria- hungarian railway and a german station command at Haydarpaşa . Commander of the group was Kuk Lt Col von Mégay.
Ernst von Mégay and Lt Rimpler at the office

[stevebecker]

Tosun,

Large numbers of German and KUK officers and soldiers arrived to help the poor Railway System in the Ottoman Empire.

I have found no details on these so called Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command

I have but a small number

Boehm-Tettelbach Alfred Capt to Maj Railways Eastern Front 1916-18 (1878-1962) later WWII Gen admin comds
Boetticher Friedrich von Capt to Maj Railways Eastern Front 1915-18 (1881-1967) later WWII admin comds
Borch Heinrich von der Gefr ESK6b (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1892 - died 29-11-18 in the Laz skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Böttrich Silvester LtCol Genel Kurmay 4. (Demiryolu) Sube Baskani Gen.Kur.Sahra Demiryolu Dairesi Baskani (General Staff 4 (Railway) Sub-Head Gen.Yur. Field Railway Administration Head) Ottoman HQ Railway section Baghdad line 1914-1916
Contzen (Conzen) Capt Mardin'de Sahra Demiryollari Komutani (Field Railways Commander in Mardin) 6th Army Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in his book
Deveroff Lt Mardin'de Sahra demiryollari Baglanti subayi (Field railways in Mardin)
Erler Ad. Ing Baghdad railway (1888 - died 12-12-18 in the Laz. Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Fislage Karl Gefr ESK6b (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1889 - died 4-12-18 in the Laz. Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Flessing Hans ObLt Filistin'de Samah'ta Demiryolu durak komutani (Railway station commander in Samah in Palestine)
Fots Capt Railway officer Staff Yildirim
Garke Maj Istanbul'da Demiryolu Özel Birlikleri Komutani (Special Railway Units Commander in Istanbul) 1916-1917
Geuther Paul Dvr EBSK3 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1887 - died 6-1-19 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Goerke Maj Demiryollari birlikleri Kurmay subayi (Associations of railway troops) 1917-
Groener Wilhelm Col Chief Military Rail roads OHL
Gronevalt Capt Railway officer Staff Yildirim
Haag Gust. Gefr ESK6b (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1882 - died 23-2-19 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Hasse Rudolf Pnr ESK6b (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1885 - died 29-11-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Heintzel Ernst Gefr EBSK5 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (died 21-11-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Heutschke Rudolf Pnr EBSK11 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1898 - died 19-11-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Huber R.O. Maj Sahra Demiryollarinda Müfettis (Inspector in the Field Railways) 1916-1918
Klose Wilhelm Pte /Mech EBSK11 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railway service command (1886 - died 30-11-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Klövekorn unknown Bagdad Railway 6th Army Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in his book
Kübel Theodor Col Sahra demiryollari Baskani 1913- 5.8.1914 Türk demir yollarinin yetersizligi ve acilen yeni yollarin yapilmasi için çok yüksek miktarlarda kredi gerektigi seklinde rapor hazirlayinca Alman Askeri Heyeti hazirladigi bu rapor pahali bulur ve geri gönderilir) (Sub-Saharan (Field) Railways President 1913- 5.8.1914 This report, prepared by the German Military Delegation, finds it expensive and is sent back when it reports that the railway is inadequate and urgently needed to be loaned in order to make new routes) 1913-14
Küpers Josef Pnr ESK6b (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1892 - died 2-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Kutz Franz Pnr EBSK11 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1897 - died 22-1-19 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Leyser von Capt Cav Hafir-Abu Augila arasi sahra demir yolu yapimi Baskani (Hafiz-Abu Aguila inter-regional railway construction President)
Meissner Albrecht (Pasha) unknown Bagdad Railway Mesopotamia Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in book
Molsen Maj Yildirim Ordularinda Sahra Demiryollari Baskan Yardimcisi (Deputy Chairman of the Field Railways at Yildirim Army)
Nida von Maj Istanbul'da Alman Sahra demiryollari komutanligi temsilcisi kurmay subayi (Representative of the German Field railway commanding officer in Istanbul) 1917-1918
Pfann LtCol Rail officer Ottoman GHQ
Pfannenstiehl Wilhelm Hermann Col Demiryollari Daire Baskani 1916-1918 (Presidential Office of Railways 1916-1918) Genel Kurmay'da Demiryollari Daire Baskani 1916-1918 (Head of the Department of Railways in the General Staff) 1916-1918 (1890-1982) later WWII SS Maj Hygiene Inspector in Berlin
Pramann LtCol Genel Kurmay 'da Sahra Demiryollari Daire Baskani (Chief of the Field Railway Department in the General Staff) 1916-1917
Schwitzki Hermann Gefr ESK69 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1887 - died 8-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Steinbach Maj Ürdün'de Amman Tren istasyonu komutani (Amman train station commander in Jordan) (railway unit)
Thierry LtCol 'da Istanbulda Sahra Demiryollari Dairesinde Kurmay Subayi (Istanbul Sub-Saharan (Field) Railway) or (staff officer at the field railway department in Istanbul) 1915-1916
Völker Lt 'den itibaren Demiryollari birliklerinde (From the 'den' railway troops) 1918's
Werner Jos. Pnr EBSK3 (Eisenbahnsonderkommando) special railroad service command (1891 - died 4-12-18 in the Laz Skutari) grave at Tarabya Istanbul
Wüst unknown Chief Engineer of Baghdad railway Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in his book


S.B

[Tosun Saral]

Railway 2nd Lt. Behiç Gülbahar in 1936
Class of railway was demolished in 1940s

[Tosun Saral]

Our honourable Jewish soldier during WW1 2nd Lt. Musa Efendi (Moshe Sharet) was one of the soldiers protecting the hijaz railway.
Moshe Sharet became minister president of Israil