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Discussions on the role played by and situation of women in the Third Reich not covered in the other sections. Hosted by Vikki.
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Post by Matt Gibbs » 09 Oct 2006 21:12

kewl, nice one Lufty re-enacting, sounds good.
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Post by Vikki » 10 Oct 2006 03:27

pzrwest,

It's always much more interesting---and unusual---to know the history of the person behind an item!

I hope Helga and Edgar are both well.

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Post by Vikki » 10 Oct 2006 03:38

Matt Gibbs wrote:Well, I guess you will have to PM me if you decide to sell your collection then ;) ;) ;) Yeah ok, not likely.
:D But if I ever did, you'd be the first one I'd PM. :wink:
Hope you find some nice things at yr local events.
I just did, a few weeks ago: the two Blitz patches above were a couple of them. :wink:

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Post by Heimatschuss » 12 Oct 2006 01:23

Hello,

found another city passport for a woman here
http://www.auction-service.com/auktions ... 809845.jpg

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Torsten
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Post by Vikki » 04 Nov 2006 06:49

Vikki wrote:
This section won't turn into an advertising board for EBay. Experienced collectors know the caveats of shopping there; inexperienced "shoppers" do not. Women's items are highly visible, and an always sought-after field, of collecting---and equally frequently misrepresented.

As this is a research area of the Forum, posters should not post an item for sale, or links to an item for sale, unless they can support the item with research and/or documentation, make an intelligent comment on it---or at least ask an intelligent question about it. Otherwise, they can speak to Marcus about paying their fee and posting it in the "For Sale" area.

Despite the recent interest in the subject, this is not a sales list.

~Vikki
I've thought that this post of mine must have seemed a little heavy-handed, especially to those who don't know me as a collector and historian. Quite incidentally, something happened just this past week that I think will illustrate my point.

Someone who saw one of the female death cards posted in this thread recently won the auction for it on Ebay.de. They received the item this week. Luckily, the buyer was an experienced collector, and knew right away, on close examination, that something wasn't right with it. Lucikly the buyer also is in contact with museum professionials, who looked at the death card, and confirmed that it was bad---there's still some debate over whether it's a (quite good, by the way) scanned and laser-printed copy, or merely a (very artfully done) photocopy. (By the way, I've seen the card, and happen to agree with the latter diagnosis.)

Very luckily also, and to his credit and honour, the seller is willing to refund---in this case.

Just a warning, as I intended in my previous post, from my own collecting experience: Everyone knows that WWII German items are faked. And WWII German female items even more so. And because of the "Ilse She-Wolf" stereotype exuded---no, propogated---by uninformed reenactors and other sensation seekers, female items are especially easy bait.

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Post by ancasta » 13 Nov 2006 18:03

Here is something I promised Vikki I would post. At the bottom of the magazine it says:
German women and girls help towards Victory. Nachtrichtenhelferinnen from all regions of the Reich replace their male counterparts for duty on the front.
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Post by Annelie » 13 Nov 2006 18:42

Thankyou for the warning Vikki.

Your correct about many fakes/reproduction on ebay.

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Post by craigob » 13 Nov 2006 22:46

Thats a great looking Item, any chance of seeing an article or two?
ancasta wrote:Here is something I promised Vikki I would post. At the bottom of the magazine it says:
German women and girls help towards Victory. Nachtrichtenhelferinnen from all regions of the Reich replace their male counterparts for duty on the front.

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Post by ancasta » 15 Nov 2006 02:18

craigob wrote:Thats a great looking Item, any chance of seeing an article or two?
All bar one of the articles are written in German shorthand as it is a Heer training magazine. As my scanner doesn't work atm I will try and take a photo of the page with all the exercises I mentioned above.


Edit: I had posted the pics but I see the pictures of the above magazine have vanished from this thread. Shame really, as they were rare depictions of Helferin work.
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HSNH cuff

Post by rikster » 17 Nov 2006 14:34

Stab HSNH cufftitle
A lovely example[/img]

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Post by ancasta » 17 Nov 2006 18:37

Cant see the photo rikster :( Can you post again?

There was recently one of Cyrus Lee's copies on eBay for sale - as Vikki mentions above regarding fakes on Ebay, it was being sold as a genuine piece.

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Post by Vikki » 18 Nov 2006 07:19

By the way, I'd like to remind everyone to provide sources for their photos here, whether from their own collections or otherwise.

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Post by rikster » 18 Nov 2006 09:39

comparison between Cyrus' (top)
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Post by rikster » 18 Nov 2006 09:44

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Post by Vikki » 06 Jun 2007 22:57

Moderator's note: ID documents of military auxiliaries have been split into their own thread at:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=1006216

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