Marseilles's Mother

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Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 23 Feb 2017 08:01

Dear Fellows,

Was ace Hans-Joachim Marseille's mother named Charlotte Reimer? I mean before she got married and had her last name changed into Marseille. When did she was born and when she died? I have no idea what she did during World War II.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 28 Feb 2017 08:38

Dear Fellows,

From a book of Hans-Joachim Marseille by Franz Kurowski,Marseille's mom was married two times. First to Siegfried Marseille and when seperated married a Carl Reuter.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 15 Apr 2017 23:10

Dear Fellows,

Is there anything you can add about the information of Hans-Joachim Marseille's mother Charlotte?

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Helge » 18 Apr 2017 18:26

Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 19 Apr 2017 21:06

Dear Folks,

I don't think so. By the way I found in one source it was Charlotte Riemer not Reimer.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Helge » 19 Apr 2017 22:51

The exact name is: Charlotte Marie Johanna Pauline Gertrud Riemer.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 22 Apr 2017 21:13

Dear Sir,

What source is for that name?

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 01 May 2017 00:45

No one know what source for that full name of Charlotte, Hans-Joachim Marseille mother? I don't trust Wikipedia at all.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Helge » 01 May 2017 02:28

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:Dear Sir,

What source is for that name?

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The Star of Africa: The Story of Hans Marseille, the Rogue Luftwaffe Ace Who Dominated the WWII Skies
by Colin D. Heaton (Goodreads Author), Anne-Marie Lewis
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 01 May 2017 05:51

Just that single source by Colin D. Heaton? I have doubt about that full name that is named "Charlotte Marie Johanna Pauline Gertrud Riemer".There is not much evidence to support this. Hans-Joachim Marseille's military ID documents would have mention the name of his mother Charlotte and her maiden name. So despite that one source,I don't agree about Charlotte's full name at all!

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Sid Guttridge » 24 Aug 2021 21:26

Hi Edward,

I know we don't agree on much, but I think you are right to question Heaton as a sole source.

Colin D. Heaton has a very dubious record,

His book Prince of Aces was cancelled by the publisher at the last moment when numerous people pointed out that it was fiction.

Perhaps on account of this debacle, he started self publishing. An early offering, Four War Boer, also appears to be fiction, as the protagonist is completely unknown to the Rhodesian special forces he was supposed to have trained in the 1960s! They declined to endorse the book.

As a result of this and other questionable instances, Heaton can only be relied upon if carefully double checked, which rather undermines the point of using him in the first place.

Cheers,

Sid

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Melax » 02 Sep 2021 19:21

I think you can find her 2nd marriage at

Trauungsbuch Berlin Schöneberg II, 1922 Nr.762

(source ancestry.com)

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if it is the correct person she was called Charlotte Marie Johanna Pauline Gertrud, born Riemer, married Marseille, married Reuter

born 26.03.1892 in Königsberg

II.oo 27.09.1922 with Polizeioberleutnant Karl Josef Reuter

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Re: Marseilles's Mother

Post by Sid Guttridge » 03 Sep 2021 08:48

Hi Melax,

Thanks for the information.

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