German manpower disbalance on July,1944

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German manpower disbalance on July,1944

Post by AriX » 03 Sep 2021 15:14

Wehrmacht's Iststarke on 7/1/1944 - 9.57M ( thank's to user Art)
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Mobilised on 6/1/1944 - 16.6 M ( I take the numbers from russian translation of "Das Heer 1933-1945".There was a mistype - 9, instead of 4.Pre-war Wehrmaht strenght is included).
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On 7/1/1944 this figure should be increased , at least, on 0.1M

KIA and DoW on 7/1/1944 - 1.3M ( OKW report)
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MIA - 0.77M ( OKW report)
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16.7M - 9.57M - ( 1.3M + 0.77M) = 5.06M
Of this 5.06M we should subtract 2M transfered to labour force and 0.3M discharged due to the wounds. And we got 2.76M in the middle of nowhere.

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Re: German manpower disbalance on July,1944

Post by Richard Anderson » 04 Sep 2021 02:37

I doubt the OKW report of KIA and DOW of 1 July 1944 was accurate. Postwar they assessed a total of 1,912,613 KIA and WIA as of 1 September 1944. Also as of 1 September 1944, the postwar count of MIA was 1,199,624. Discharged as of 1 September was 408,258. That probably reduces the "discrepancy" by c. 1 million. I would have to check, but the number transferred to industry looks low as well and is a very dicey number, since men were released "on leave" to industry and then later returned to military service.
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Re: German manpower disbalance on July,1944

Post by Art » 05 Sep 2021 07:43

AriX wrote:
03 Sep 2021 15:14
Mobilised on 6/1/1944 - 16.6 M ( I take the numbers from russian translation of "Das Heer 1933-1945".There was a mistype - 9, instead of 4.Pre-war Wehrmaht strenght is included).
From "Germany and the Second World War" the Wehrmacht strength in June 1940 was was c. 5.77 million compared with 4.89 million conscripted by that moment in the table. So pre-war strength was most probably not counted.
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Re: German manpower disbalance on July,1944

Post by AriX » 05 Sep 2021 12:12

Art wrote:
05 Sep 2021 07:43
So pre-war strength was most probably not counted.
Pre-war strengt : 1,130.000
Mobilised on 6/1/1940 : 4.894.000
Total : 6.024.000
Strenght on 6/15/1940 - 5.764.000 .Its also, include those, who were called to arms in first half of June,1940. I assume 100.000 in those two weeks.
Disperancy : 360.000, of which 95.000 are losses.

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Re: German manpower disbalance on July,1944

Post by KwK42 » 24 Jan 2022 20:26

Strenght on 15.06.41 :
Heer 5 200 000
LW 1 545 000
KGM 404 000
W-SS 160 000
Total : 7 309 000

Strenght on 1.07.1942
Heer 5 750 000
LWF 1 900 000
KGM 569 000
W-SS 190 000
Total : 8 409 000

From the mid-1941 until mid-1942 3.1 million man were called to arms, but the strenght increased only on 1 million. Where did 1.600.000 man go , if the casulties in that period were like 400.000 KIA and 50.000 MIA ??

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