I know Germany army very much make mostest underestimate of Soviet war fighting motivations. It seems to me they think Red Army will to run away and surrender at first battles.AbollonPolweder wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020 17:341. Hitler and his generals were convinced that the USSR was weaker than France. And why should they have thought differently?Ружичасти Слон wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020 18:30Can anyone help to me to understand what was German estimation of Soviet mobilization timeframe. I did not find anywhere what this is and it seems to me it is most critical to the plan.
Does anybody know what German estimation is for time to mobilize total war times Red Army of 11-12 millions mens and about 400 divisions?
General Marcks believed that Barbarossa would take from 9 to 17 weeks. During this time, the USSR would have lost most of its territory and population. And this means that any mobilization would be already ineffective.
Read this source about the mobilization process in Leningrad in 1939.
http://eprints.tversu.ru/7159/1/%D0%92% ... 23-135.pdf
I give a few quotes:Many military enlistment offices simply reigned in chaos.Railways were also unprepared for mobilization. The mobilization of vehicles and horses was unsatisfactory.“The work of the couriers was hampered by the absence of sufficient street lighting. ” It was about the outskirts of the city - Forest, Specific, Ozerki, Shuvalovo. Therefore, according to the source, one hundred couriers did not find the necessary streets and houses and "a huge amount of summons was brought ... back ".The mobilization mechanism kept failing. It turned out that among those registered in the military commissariats there are many "dead souls". For example, in the Soletsky village council of the Soletsky district such were 67 people out of 269 registered. In the Slutsk region, according to the report of the head of the military department of the regional committee D.N. Sobolev, 924 summons out of 3,223 were returned. … In the Kingisepp District out of 400 summons 180 were returned back - that is, almost half. “Numerous cases of disorder and confusion in registering the military-obligated population,” Sobolev reported, “were also found in other areas of the region”1939! No war in the USSR! No fac..ng Barbarossa! And the "colossus" already has a huge number of dead souls and the absence of pens and ink. And this is in the "capital" city Leningrad. But what about ink and pens in a small town? That's what Adolf had in mind when he mentioned some colossus.In some military enlistment offices and at individual assembly points, simply chaos reigned. The Kingisepp District was particularly distinguished. There, according to Sobolev, "the work of the assembly point could not begin due to the lack of ink, pens and preprinted forms of documents ...".
2. One division of the Red Army in 1941 totaled approximately 15,000 soldiers. Let's divide 12 million by 15,000. 12,000,000: 15,000 = 800 divisions. Or am I wrong? How did you calculate?
But not answer problem. How to know victory before war times Red army mobilized if no timescale for war times mobilization. Marcks was write 9-17 weeks for to victory. How to think Red Army need more than 9 weeks?