So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

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So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by KirinFrost » 18 Oct 2018 16:25

All military officers no matter the branch they served in

cause i read multiple times from the web that plenty of them were killed but i highly doubt that the german could replenish such losses especially in the latter stages of the war

thus who commanded the platoons and companies later on? warrant officers? :lol: :lol:

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by Art » 19 Oct 2018 09:37

Heerespersonalamt reported having 314 293 officers in the Wehrmacht as of 1 May 1944. Of them:
62% in Heer
22.6% - Luftwaffe
7.5% - Kriegsmarine
4.9% - Waffen-SS

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by hucks216 » 19 Oct 2018 11:06

It wouldn't of been unusual to have had NCO's commanding platoons, and Companies if needed. That happened throughout the war so it wouldn't of been any different in the latter stages, and some would of received commissions. In 1940 Oberfeldwebel Hans Hindelang was a Zugführer in 14./Inf.Rgt GD, while Feldwebel Weißenborn & Feldwebel Röser both held the position of Zugführer in 18./Inf.Rgt GD during the same period.
And in early 1944 Oberfeldwebel Kalinowski was a Kompanie-Führer in 3./Pz.Gren.Rgt GD although he was an officer candidate and is listed in Volksbund as a Leutnant. And during the same period Oberfeldwebel Heppes held the same position in 6./Pz.Gren.Rgt GD after the Kompanie-Chef was killed.
Oberwachtmeister Gustav Kaspar & Oberwachtmeister Berthold both held the position of Batterie-Führer in StuG-Abt GD in early 1944 - and I dare say if I go through all my files for GD I'd find more but if it was like this for just one Division then it would of been the same for the Heer as a whole.

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by Art » 19 Oct 2018 12:22

Late-war tables of organization standardized NCOs as platoon commanders:
http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/4 ... 0131n.html
Pay attention: it was not a provisional stop-gap measure caused by casualties but a standard organization uniformly adopted by the German Army.

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by KirinFrost » 20 Oct 2018 03:50

hucks216 wrote:
19 Oct 2018 11:06
It wouldn't of been unusual to have had NCO's commanding platoons, and Companies if needed. That happened throughout the war so it wouldn't of been any different in the latter stages, and some would of received commissions. In 1940 Oberfeldwebel Hans Hindelang was a Zugführer in 14./Inf.Rgt GD, while Feldwebel Weißenborn & Feldwebel Röser both held the position of Zugführer in 18./Inf.Rgt GD during the same period.
And in early 1944 Oberfeldwebel Kalinowski was a Kompanie-Führer in 3./Pz.Gren.Rgt GD although he was an officer candidate and is listed in Volksbund as a Leutnant. And during the same period Oberfeldwebel Heppes held the same position in 6./Pz.Gren.Rgt GD after the Kompanie-Chef was killed.
Oberwachtmeister Gustav Kaspar & Oberwachtmeister Berthold both held the position of Batterie-Führer in StuG-Abt GD in early 1944 - and I dare say if I go through all my files for GD I'd find more but if it was like this for just one Division then it would of been the same for the Heer as a whole.
Woah how did you get so much info? :D

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by KirinFrost » 20 Oct 2018 03:53

Art wrote:
19 Oct 2018 12:22
Late-war tables of organization standardized NCOs as platoon commanders:
http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/4 ... 0131n.html
Pay attention: it was not a provisional stop-gap measure caused by casualties but a standard organization uniformly adopted by the German Army.
wow theres 1 officer for every 70+ non officers..... 8O 8O 8O

militaries nowadays sure are officer heavy by comparison considering i served with them lol

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by hucks216 » 20 Oct 2018 12:46

KirinFrost wrote:
20 Oct 2018 03:50
....
Woah how did you get so much info? :D
From years of looking through published sources, archive files and wartime documents.

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Re: So how many officers did germany have in ww2 lol

Post by Gilles de Rais » 21 Oct 2018 00:58

Art wrote:
19 Oct 2018 09:37
Heerespersonalamt reported having 314 293 officers in the Wehrmacht as of 1 May 1944. Of them:
62% in Heer
22.6% - Luftwaffe
7.5% - Kriegsmarine
4.9% - Waffen-SS
Does that include officers in the Fuhrerreserve as well or just active officers?

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