Different German Oil Strategy

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Re: Different German Oil Strategy

Post by HistoryGeek2019 » 14 Nov 2019 06:07

Müller is referring to a blockade runner that arrived in January 1944. He doesn't give the name, but cites:
Speer-Chronik, 31 Jan. 1944, 18, BA R, 3/1739

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Re: Different German Oil Strategy

Post by Richard Anderson » 14 Nov 2019 06:31

HistoryGeek2019 wrote:
14 Nov 2019 06:07
Müller is referring to a blockade runner that arrived in January 1944. He doesn't give the name, but cites:
Speer-Chronik, 31 Jan. 1944, 18, BA R, 3/1739
Interesting. Jürgen Rohwer in Chronik Seekrieg doesn't mention such an occurrence. It also does not appear in SRH-019, Blockade-Running Between Europe and the Far East by Submarines, 1942-44. Although the latter study was completed 1 December 1944 it should still have covered it. And, despite the title, it covered surface ships as well.

Of course, Müller was correct in a sense, but relying on the possibility of blockade runners to supply the material for tires violated the Nazi principal of autarky as well.
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Re: Different German Oil Strategy

Post by HistoryGeek2019 » 14 Nov 2019 18:56

Richard Anderson wrote:
14 Nov 2019 06:31

Of course, Müller was correct in a sense, but relying on the possibility of blockade runners to supply the material for tires violated the Nazi principal of autarky as well.
Yes, he makes the point that a lot of high ranking Nazis had a vested interest in the synthetic materials programs.

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Re: Different German Oil Strategy

Post by Peter89 » 15 Nov 2019 08:38

HistoryGeek2019 wrote:
14 Nov 2019 18:56
Richard Anderson wrote:
14 Nov 2019 06:31

Of course, Müller was correct in a sense, but relying on the possibility of blockade runners to supply the material for tires violated the Nazi principal of autarky as well.
Yes, he makes the point that a lot of high ranking Nazis had a vested interest in the synthetic materials programs.
It was more complicated than that.

Ownership in the Third Reich became more and more fluid, state ownership was not like the PSA Groupe (producer of Peugeout & Citroen) today. State ownership was usually combined with uneconomical production: see Hermann Göring Werke or the synthetic fuel program. A Board membership for a Nazi official (let it be supervisory or management) combined with state ownership actually meant ownership in every sense but name.

Like in 1989, when the Wall came down, the state owned companies in the Central European countries became privately owned by their management. Thus my grandfather, who was CEO, became the owner of his 900 men factory for a price of a motorcycle. And sold it immediately as it could only operate in socialism.
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