Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

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Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by Futurist » 29 Dec 2015 07:36

Other than geographer Friedrich Ratzel (who coined the term "Lebensraum" in 1901), General Friedrich von Bernhardi (in his 1911 book Germany and the Next War), Pan-German League president Heinrich Class (in his 1912 book If I Were the Kaiser), and professor Karl Haushofer (who taught Rudolf Hess about Lebensraum), exactly which other people, if any, were early proponents of the concept of Lebensraum?

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by Futurist » 29 Dec 2015 07:37

Also, to clarify--I am talking about Lebensraum in general, rather than Lebensraum in Eastern Europe in particular.

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by wm » 29 Dec 2015 12:30

Some of the people believed to be philosophical/ideological enablers:
Arthur de Gobineau
Houston S. Chamberlain
Felix Dahn
Heinrich von Treitschke
Paul de Lagarde
Friedrich Albert Lange
Josef Ludwig Reimer
Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by ChristopherPerrien » 29 Dec 2015 21:29

Bismarck , talking of the need/problem to replace a growing child's pants so often. He was no proponent of "L-raum", but he saw the concept and the issues it would create.

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by Futurist » 30 Dec 2015 09:14

ChristopherPerrien wrote:Bismarck , talking of the need/problem to replace a growing child's pants so often. He was no proponent of "L-raum", but he saw the concept and the issues it would create.
Didn't Bismarck believe that Germany was a "saturated" country, though?

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by Futurist » 30 Dec 2015 22:25

wm wrote:Some of the people believed to be philosophical/ideological enablers:
Arthur de Gobineau
Houston S. Chamberlain
Felix Dahn
Heinrich von Treitschke
Paul de Lagarde
Friedrich Albert Lange
Josef Ludwig Reimer
Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels
Thank you very much for sharing all of these names with us! :) Also, do you know of any other relevant people in regards to this?

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Re: Early Proponents of the Concept of Lebensraum

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 12 Dec 2021 00:23

There are words which carry the presage of defeat. Defence is such a word. What is the result of an even victorious defence? The next attempt of imposing it to that weaker, defender. The attacker, despite temporary setback, feels the master of situation.

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