Bonnie & Clyde (Full-Auto Weapons) ?

[T. A. Gardner]

How? Because in the 1920's and early 30's fully automatic weapons were not regulated.



Note, that the listed $200 price (1929) is equivalent to about $3500 today. That is not a cheap gun in 1929.

[ThatZenoGuy]

How? Because in the 1920's and early 30's fully automatic weapons were not regulated.



Note, that the listed $200 price (1929) is equivalent to about $3500 today. That is not a cheap gun in 1929.

>Anti-Bandit Sub-Machine Gun
Gotta love how old advertising used to use words.

[Hans1906]

Thank you for all the informative replies, unfortunately I was not aware of many of the facts at the time.

It's very amazing what was possible in the US back then, very surprising.

CLYDE AND HIS GUNS https://texashideout.tripod.com/guns.html


Hans

[LineDoggie]

As far as I know, German submachine guns were illegal between the two world wars. Of course, there were criminals who used such weapons.

When first produced the US military (among others, UK called it a gangster weapon) decided there was no need for such a firearm. A few were procured by the US navy to arm Mail Guards of the USMC as robbers targeted the US mail on railroad trains. the Marines kept these Model 1921 Thompsons and took them to Nicaragua. But the bulk of the US military did not want Thompsons until the mid to late 1930's



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The Thompson M1 I never had in my hands, was not to be found here in Germany at that time.


Hans

The difference between an M1 and M1A1 TSMG was small

M1A1 had Protective ears on the stamped rear sight, simplified bolt with fixed firing pin machined into the bolt face

The Models M1921 and M1928, M1928A1 used the Blish lock system which was more complicated to machine

[von thoma]

Anti-Bandit Sub-Machine Gun
Gotta love how old advertising used to use words.

That depends on who the user is....

[LineDoggie]

Fully automatic firearms could be bought unrestricted by the so inclined until the National Firearms Act of 1934.

Thanks Markus,

so a "Tommy-Gun" was available to every private citizen, if he could afford the submachine gun at all ?

Good gods, you just have to imagine something like that, unbelievable..!


Hans

And most purchased were never used in any crime no matter what Hollywood tried to imply


Just as today there are some 400K registered "Machineguns" in private hands and in the 84 years of the act 3 have been used for crimes, 2 by police officers, all in the 1980's

[Richard Anderson]

Just as today there are some 400K registered "Machineguns" in private hands and in the 84 years of the act 3 have been used for crimes, 2 by police officers, all in the 1980's

741,000 according to the ATF. Your figure appears to be from before 2010 when ATF recorded 457,000 privately owned "fully automatic machine guns".

[LineDoggie]

Just as today there are some 400K registered "Machineguns" in private hands and in the 84 years of the act 3 have been used for crimes, 2 by police officers, all in the 1980's

741,000 according to the ATF. Your figure appears to be from before 2010 when ATF recorded 457,000 privately owned "fully automatic machine guns".

Wasnt counting those owned by local LEO agencies

[Knouterer]

Because of the negative publicity surrounding the use of the Thompson by gangsters, particularly after the Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929, the Auto-Ordnance Company decided in 1930 to restrict sales to the military and law enforcement.
That's not to say that it was from then on impossible for criminals to get one, of course. In fact one of the two guns used in the Massacre had originally been purchased by a deputy sheriff.

[wirklich]

West Hurley N.Y. Auto-Ordnance Full automatic.jpg

West Hurley N.Y. Auto-Ordnance, fully automatic.
Too much light glare on drum magazine.
End of full auto.
Shell cases still in air.
You need long arms.
Really.