Bauformen

[dirk Peeters]

thanks
new info on tobruks
i like that

[dirk Peeters]

here a danish tobruk 58c with special entrance
often found in danemark
the door is in the middle

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Dirk

[dirk Peeters]

practicaly the same Tobruk with that door a bit in the middle exists also in Pte du Hoc

it was built next to the reinforced 501

501 SK 09 plan.jpg

Dirk

[dirk Peeters]

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and another one at le Chaos Longues sur mer

[dirk Peeters]

Kryle Tobruk laatste.jpg

and one at kryle

[dirk Peeters]

first time i see this that the beobachtungstand Tobruk has another function as emergency exit
plan is from the M 152 thanks to Natter

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Dirk

[forttravel]

At least also nice British sketches from manual "DESCRIPTION OF GERMAN DEFENCES IN THE WEST".

[dirk Peeters]

nice

[moonraker]

hello
tobruk in buiding phase in Mediterranean.
Source ebay.DE


Me belfra-team

[moonraker]

hello
document emanating of 82 AK very interesting.we can see written guidelines for the futur draiwing with the types,VF,R,number liste 100, 200 bauform and + and O offen,Sp,Shc....
So front decembre 1942.

Me belfra-team

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[Kreta]

Hello
Drawing of a 58c
Regards
Kreta

[jopaerya]

Hello Kreta

I have also a drawing from the Karihaala-Batterie in Kristiansund-Nord ,
but that map is from dec 1945. Do you know who made these drawings ??

Regards Jos

[Natter]

I have also a drawing from the Karihaala-Batterie in Kristiansund-Nord ,
but that map is from dec 1945. Do you know who made these drawings ??

It's very common to find german post-war maps and drawings (especially 1945-46).
After the war, german POWs in Norway were put to work reconstructing maps, drawings and documents that they destroyed before the capitulation, as well as describing technical functions of installations etc that were to be reused by Norwegian Armed Forces.

This topic was also discussed here:
http://www.kystfort.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7296

There are also several examples of german key personel being kept in Norway long time after the bulk of the POWs were reptriated, as their expertise was in demand to ensure proper training of norwegian personell.
For instance, during my last visit to the national archives, I found a series of letters dealing with two german torpedo-specialists being used for training norwegian naval personell in the maintenance and operation of the german torpedoes. The navy argued for the need to keep them longer than expected to make sure their knowledge had been "completely tapped out". I don't remember exactly how long, but they were not allowed to travel back home to Germany for a few years after the war ended.
They were not treated as POWs, but more like instructors with a small payment and could travel between the naval bases by themselves without guards (they were not volunteers though, as according to the letters they were keen to get back home, but the navy refused).

[jopaerya]

Thank you vey much Natter

[forttravel]

Guys,
may I refresh my question - is it any official drawing for such kind of ringstand redesigned to have entry in back side. Few examples exists in my area od B-1 Stellung.