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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by fontessa » 20 Jun 2021 15:56

Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
26 Mar 2021 20:07
What have you for the Kuwa and Ume?
The bellow is the last battle of Kuwa.

3rd / 4th Echelon of 7th Ta-go Operations
Unloading of No. 9 APD and Nos. 140 / 159 LSM escorted by Kuwa and Take in Ormoc Bay. KUWA and TAKE were guarding outside the bay while one APD and two LSMs were unloading their cargo. US Destroyers Moale, Allen M. Sumner and Cooper with several torpedo motor boats lined up side by side and rushed into the bay. This was because they were afraid of JAN's oxygen torpedoes. On the other hand, Kuwa jumped out to protect the transport ships. The US destroyer's assault was so rapid that Kuwa couldn't afford to form a formation with Take. As a result, Kuwa was exposed to accurate bombardment by the radar aiming of US destroyers. Kuwa sank within 10 minutes. During this time, Take ready for her lightning strike, fired three torpedoes. One of them hit Cooper, and she sank with her hull broken in half. U.S. military records indicate that 10 officers and 181 NCOs / seamen were killed. Upon seeing this, Moale and Allen M. Sumner left the bay. It is said that about 250 crew were killed in the sinking of Kuwa. Details are unknown, but several men swam to Ormoc and survived the war. (wasthey were theUS POWs you said?) Crew swam to Ipil were shot dead by the U.S. forces, and the crew who swam to Bonson Island were killed by guerrillas. The crew, who were floating on the sea, were rescued and taken prisoner with Cooper's survivors. This was the last torpedo battle between US Navy and IJN.

53rd Destroyer Division
Crew for Medical Offiser Duty / Attached to 53rd Destroyer Division Boarded Kuwa
ENS / ENS / LTJG* UJIIE Minoru 氏家稔 (???): 15 November 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA)
Crew for Supply Offiser Duty / Attached to 53rd Destroyer Division Boarded Kuwa
ENS / ENS / LTJG* IWASA Hajime 岩佐肇 (???): 15 November 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA)
KUWA
Commanding Officers
(CEO) LCDR / LCDR OKUMA Yasunosuke 大熊安之助 (60): 20 June 1944 - 2 July 1944 (17 C13072099600 / 40 C13072099900)
(CEO) LCDR / LCDR YAMASHITA Masamichi 山下政倫 (53): 2 July 1944 - 25 July 1944 (40 C13072099900 / 8 C13072100400)
LCDR / CDR / CAPT* YAMASHITA Masamichi 山下政倫 (53) : 25 July 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA) (8 C13072100400)
Gunnery Officers
(EO) LT / LT KITAMURA Tetsu 北村徹 (68): 1 July 1944 - 25 July 1944 (25 C13072099900 / 8 C13072100400)
LT / LT / LCDR* KITAMURA Tetsu 北村徹 (68): 25 July 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA) (8 C13072100400)
Torpedo Officers
(EO) LTJG / LTJG MITANI Yoshio 三谷与司夫 (71): 1 July 1944 - 25 July 1944 (41 C13072099900 / 8 C13072100400)
LTJG / LTJG MITANI Yoshio 三谷与司夫 (71): 25 July 1944 - 28 August 1944 (8 C13072100400 / 1 C13072100800)
LT / LT / LCDR* TOJI Kakakuji 田路嘉鶴次 (70): 28 August 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA) (50 C13072100700)
Navigation Officers
(EO) LTJG / LTJG ARAI Denjiro 新井伝次郎 (71): 1 July 1944- 15 July 1944 (41 C13072099900 / 36 C13072100100)
(EO) LTJG / LTJG KODAIRA Kiyoto 小平清人 (71): 15 July 1944 - 25 July 1944 (36 C13072100100, / 8 C13072100400)
LTJG / LT / LCDR* KODAIRA Kiyoto 小平清人 (71): 25 July 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA) (8 C13072100400)
Engineer Officers
(EO) LT / LT MURASHIGE Sadaichi 村重定一 (Eng.S.D.): 20 June 1944 - 25 July 1944
LT / LT / LCDR* MURASHIGE Sadaichi 村重定一 (Eng.S.D.): 25 July 1944 - 3 December 1944 (KIA)
Crew for Medical Offiser Duty
(EO) ENS / ENS / LTJG* NISHII Katsuya 西井勝也 (???): 15 July 1944 - 4 August 1944 (KIA)* (39 C13072100100)
* Death by Accident
VACANT: 4 August 1944 - 25 August 1944
ENS / ENS UJIIE Minoru 氏家稔 (???): 25 August 1944 - 15 November 1944 (Attached to 53rd Destroyer Division) (10 C13072100700)
Crew for Supply Offiser Duty
(EO) ENS / ENS IWASA Hajime 岩佐肇 (???): 28 June 1944 - 25 July 1944 (6 C13072099900 / 8 C13072100400)
ENS / ENS IWASA Hajime 岩佐肇 (???): 25 July 1944 - 15 November 1944 (Attached to 53rd Destroyer Division) (8 C13072100400)


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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 20 Jun 2021 19:48

Hello Fontessa
Thanks again Probably those on Ormoc were rescued and made POW however there was a conservation in English between the Survivor's of the Cooper and Kuwa! though no mention about any being picked up?
Regarding the Yanagi apparently 21 were killed which included an officer and over 40+ wounded which was surprising as the savagery of her strafing and was immobilised with the loss of her stern! I was wondering if there were any of the senior officers injured or killed!
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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by fontessa » 21 Jun 2021 00:22

Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
20 Jun 2021 19:48
Thanks again Probably those on Ormoc were rescued and made POW however there was a conservation in English between the Survivor's of the Cooper and Kuwa! though no mention about any being picked up?
Yes, there seems to have been a conservation in English between the survivor's of the Cooper and Kuwa on the sea. Two Catalina flying boats rescued 56 + 48 = 104 survivors. According to Japanese Wiki, authorized crew number of Cooper was 336. If it was correct even in Ormoc, since 181 men were killed when Cooper sank, (336-181) -104 = 51 became the number of survivors of Kuwa rescued by the flying boats. It was considerable large number, but actual Cooper crew number in Ormoc and the number of Cooper survivors who swam to land and helped by Filipinos were unknown variables.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 21 Jun 2021 19:56

Hello Fontessa
Cooper casualties as follows
191 killed and missing includes 10 officers Executive Officer, Medical and Supply officer amongst those lost
80 wounded includes 3 officers requiring hospitalisation
88 treated for immersion shock, exposure and minor injuries includes 7 officers amongst them the Commanding officer Mell Andrew Peterson Commander USN, Gunnery Officer Frank Swint Lieutenant USNR and the Damage Control officer John Irwin Orr, JR. Lieutenant USNR who was divisional Damage control officer and OOD on the USS Indianapolis was killed in her sinking on the 29/07/1945.
What information have you on the Take casualties and that she was moderately damaged by Gunfire?
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I have the complete casualty listings for the USS Cooper and the USS Moale which was damaged by Air attack after the surface action.
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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by fontessa » 23 Jun 2021 12:08

Hello Ian,

Thenks for the information.
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
21 Jun 2021 19:56
What information have you on the Take casualties and that she was moderately damaged by Gunfire?
According to my source 渡辺博史 Watanabe Hiroshi’s TROM, only one Take crew member was injured because Kuwa became her shield.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by Eugen Pinak » 29 Jun 2021 12:14

fontessa wrote:
20 Jun 2021 15:56
Hello Ian,
IANHULKMCLEOD wrote:
26 Mar 2021 20:07
What have you for the Kuwa and Ume?
The bellow is the last battle of Kuwa.

3rd / 4th Echelon of 7th Ta-go Operations
Unloading of No. 9 APD and Nos. 140 / 159 LSM escorted by Kuwa and Take in Ormoc Bay. KUWA and TAKE were guarding outside the bay while one APD and two LSMs were unloading their cargo. US Destroyers Moale, Allen M. Sumner and Cooper with several torpedo motor boats lined up side by side and rushed into the bay. This was because they were afraid of JAN's oxygen torpedoes. On the other hand, Kuwa jumped out to protect the transport ships. The US destroyer's assault was so rapid that Kuwa couldn't afford to form a formation with Take. As a result, Kuwa was exposed to accurate bombardment by the radar aiming of US destroyers. Kuwa sank within 10 minutes. During this time, Take ready for her lightning strike, fired three torpedoes. One of them hit Cooper, and she sank with her hull broken in half. U.S. military records indicate that 10 officers and 181 NCOs / seamen were killed. Upon seeing this, Moale and Allen M. Sumner left the bay. It is said that about 250 crew were killed in the sinking of Kuwa. Details are unknown, but several men swam to Ormoc and survived the war. (wasthey were theUS POWs you said?) Crew swam to Ipil were shot dead by the U.S. forces, and the crew who swam to Bonson Island were killed by guerrillas. The crew, who were floating on the sea, were rescued and taken prisoner with Cooper's survivors. This was the last torpedo battle between US Navy and IJN.
I can add a bit of information I've found during my research for the article about this battle.
Here is the link to the article: http://uaas.org.ua/members_works/Ormoc% ... 201944.pdf

1. There were no US torpedo motor boats during this battle. BTW, US sailors also though they fighting not just IJN destroyers, but also coastal artillery, torpedo bots and even submarines.
2. "Kuwa" didn't "shielded" "Take". "Take" was exposed to some fire - but its' proximity to the coast apparently made radar-controlled fire inconvenient, so US DDs chose to fire at "easy target" of "Kuwa".
3. "Take" fired only 2 torpedoes (the third failed to launch).
4. As for "Kuwa" survivors - 8 men were rescued by T-140. Some managed to launch "Kuwa" cutter and sailed to Ormok.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by fontessa » 30 Jun 2021 22:03

Hello Eugen,

Thanks for the corrections.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by Eugen Pinak » 01 Jul 2021 09:49

fontessa wrote:
30 Jun 2021 22:03
Hello Eugen,

Thanks for the corrections.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 31 Jul 2021 22:27

Hello Fontessa
Any information on the Awaji and Ishigaki losses and survivors etc?
Kind regards Ian

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Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 01 Aug 2021 02:47

ISHIGAKI
Fate: Torpedoed and sunk 31 May 1944 by submarine USS HERRING (SS-233) 70 miles W of Matsuwa Jima; 167 dead.
Personnel:
Commanding Officer: LT / LCDR* SETO Sueyoshi (Res.) - 1 October 1943 - 31 May 1944 (KIA)
Gunnery Officer: LTJG / LT* OHASHI Shozo (Spec. Duty) – 1 October 1943 - 31 May 1944 (KIA)
Navigator: LT / LCDR* ENDO Hiroshi (Res.) - 25 August 1943 - 31 May 1944 (KIA)
Chief Engineer: LT / LCDR* KANSHO Junkichi (Res.) – 15 November 1943 - 31 May 1944 (KIA)

AWAJI
Fate: Torpedoed and sunk 02 June 1944 by submarine USS PICUDA (SS-382) near Yasho Island in Bashi Strait, Luzon, Philippines; 76 dead; CHIBURI and CD-19 rescue survivors, but several later DOW.
Personnel:
Commanding Officer: LCDR / CDR* NIKI Kozo (Res.) - 15 February 1944 - 2 June 1944 (KIA)
Gunnery Officer: ???
Navigator: LTJG / LT* TANAKA Koichi (Res.) - 15 February 1944 - 2 June 1944 (KIA)
Chief Engineer: LTJG KARIYA Mitsuo (Res.) - 15 February 1944 - 2 June 1944 (SURVIVED)
SFC, MS State Guard - Semper Avanti.

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