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FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 05 Feb 2021 06:13

HELLO SIR!
DO YOU KNOW OF LISTS OF OFFICERS SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU POSTED FOR THE YUZUKI WHICH HAD ALL THE OFFICERS LISTED ABOARD HER! FOR OTHER SHIPS SUCH AS THE kAWAKAZE ETC
YOURS GROVELLING AND :roll: :BEST REGARDS IAN :thumbsup:

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Post by fontessa » 05 Feb 2021 13:46

Hello IANHULKMCLEOD,

In YUZUKI, an exceptionally appropriate War Diary remained. Unfortunately, no such details are left for other destroyers, including KAWAKAZE.

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 05 Feb 2021 23:24

HI FONTESSA
THANKS AGAIN THAT A SHAME! LIKE YUZUKI WHAT SHIPS DO EXIST THEN?
KIND REGARDS IAN

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Post by fontessa » 06 Feb 2021 07:24

Hello IANHULKMCLEOD,

IJN destroyers had the below composision.
駆逐艦長 Commander Officer (Destroyer Captain)
(ADD) 先任将校 Seinior Officer
(ADD) 第1分隊長 1st Division Officer (本務は砲術長 Regular post was Gunnery Officer)
(ADD) 第2分隊長 2nd Division Officer (本務は水雷長 Regular post was Torpedo Officer)
(ADD) 第3分隊長 3rd Division Officer (本務は航海長 Regular post was Naigation Officer)
(ADD) 第4分隊長 4th Division Officer (本務は機関長 Regular post was Engineer Officer)
Notes
(1) Strictly speaking,the commander was not a "艦長 captain" but a "駆逐艦長 destroyer captain". Only “軍艦 Warship” sach as battleships, aircraft carriers, and cruisers commanders were called "艦長 captains." This was due to the budget allocation method. The ships to which the budget was allocated one by one were laid out in "軍艦 warships", and the commander was called the "艦長 captain". Destroyer, submarine, and Kaibokans whose budget was allocated to the build of four or eight ships was not classified as "軍艦 warships." After that, the commander of the submarine is not the "艦長 captain" but the "潜水艦長 submarine captain". Only "軍艦 warships" had the chrysanthemum emblem on the bow. So destroyers didn’t have the chrysanthemum emblem.
(2) Destroyers, submarines and kaibokans didn’t have the post of Executive Officer. Instead 先任将校 Senior Officer performed the Executive Officers duty. 先任将校 Senior Officer was the additional post for the predecessor among Gunnery Officer, Torpedo Officer and Navigation Officer.
(3) The crew belonged to one of the 1st - 4th divisios. As shown above, Division Officers were the additional posts of Gunnery Officer, Torpeso Officer, Navigation Officer and Engineer Officer.

Classification of IJN Ships
軍艦 Warship
- 戦艦 Battleship
- 航空母艦 Aircraft Carrier
- 巡洋艦 Cruiser
- 砲艦 Gunboat
- 潜水母艦 Submarine Tender
- 水上機母艦 Seaplane Tender
駆逐艦 Destroyer
潜水艦 Submarine
水雷艇 Torpedo Boat
掃海艇 Minesweeper
駆潜艇 Submarine Chase
KikuGomonsho.jpg

As Yusuki, Akikaze belonged to 30th Destryer Division.
Both 30th Desroyer Division Medical Officer 大尉 山田平三郎 YAMADA Heizaburo and Supply Officer 大尉 門井弘登 KADOI Hiroto boarded YUZUKI.

The executives boared on Akikaze / 30th Destroyer Division on June 1944 were as the bellow:
第30駆逐隊司令 30th Desroyer Division Commanding Officer
- 大佐 沢村成二: CAPT SAWAMURA Seiji (49)
第30駆逐隊軍医長職務執行者 30th Desroyer Division General Duty Officer for Medical Officer Duty
- 大尉 片山贇典: LT KATAYAMA Yoshinori
第30駆逐隊主計長職務執行者 30th Desroyer Division General Duty Officer for Supply Officer Duty
- 大尉 柳川隆: LT YANAGAWA Takashi
Both 30th Desroyer Division Medical Officer 大尉 山田平三郎 YAMADA Heizaburo and Supply Officer 大尉 門井弘登 KADOI Hiroto boarded YUZUKI.
第30駆逐隊庶務主任 30th Desroyer Division Genera Affars Cief
- 少尉 阿部克巳: ENS ABE Katsumi
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秋風駆逐艦長 Akikaze Commanding Officer
- 少佐 山崎仁太郎: LCDR YAMAZAKI Nitaro (58)
水雷長 / 先任将校/ 第2分隊長 Torpedo Officer / Senior Officer / 2nd Division Officer
- 中尉 三木稠久 : LTJG MIKI Shigehisa (71)
航海長 / 第3分隊長 Navigation Officer / 3rd Division Officer
- 中尉 岸井考次: LTJG KISHII Koji
砲術長 / 第1分隊長 Gunnery Officer / 1st Division Officer
- 中尉 畠山豊秀: LTJG HATAKEYAMA Toyohide
機関長 / 第4分隊長 Engineer Officer / 4th Division Officer
- 大尉 小口茂: LT KOGUCHI Shiger (~ June 8th)
- 大尉 川崎兼季: LT KAWASAKI Kansu (June 8th ~)
通信士 / 航海士 / 第3分隊士Assistant Communications Officer / AssistantNavigaton Officer / 3rd Assistant Division Officer
- 少尉 白金茂樹: ENS SHIRAGANE Shigeki
機関長付 / 第4分隊士 Engineer Officer Attendant / 4th Assistant Division Officer
- 機曹長 笠井節: Engineer Warrant Officer KASAI Setsu
掌砲長 / 第1分隊士 Materiel Assistant to Gunnery Officer / 1st Assistant Division Officer
- 兵曹長 高藤外之 : Warrant Officer TAKAFUJI Sotoyuki (~ June 6th)
- 兵曹長 八十島直記: Warrant Officer YASOSHIMA Naoki (June 6th ~)
掌水雷長 / 第2分隊士 Materiel Assistant to Torpedo Officer / 2nd Assistant Division Officer
- 兵曹長 菅野三郎 : Warrant Officer KANNO Saburo (~ June 6th)
- 兵曹長 近沢正雄 : Warrant Officer CHIKAZAWA Masao (June 6th ~)
掌機長 Materiel Assistant to Engineer Officer
- 少尉 下谷八富吉: ENS (Eng.S.D.) SHIMOYAHACHI Tomikichi
罐長 Boiler Officer
- 機曹長 本田天一: Engineer Warrant Officer HONDA Ten’ichi
機械長 Chief Engineer
- 機曹長 田中徳松: Engineer Warrant Officer TANAKATokumatsu

Akikaze.jpg

Another example is the 17th Destroyer Yukikaze. She survived the war and was called the "lucky ship." She was handed over to Taiwan for war reparations and she was active as
丹陽 Tanyang (DD-12).

The executives boared on Yukikaze / 17th Destroyer Division on August 1944 were as the bellow:
雪風駆逐艦長 Yukikaze Commanding Officer
- 中佐 寺内正道 CDR TERAUCHI Masamichi (55)
砲術長 / 第1分隊長 Gunnery Officer / 1st Division Officer
- 大尉 柴田正: LT (S.D.) SHIBATA Tadashi
水雷長 / 先任将校 / 第2分隊長 Torpedo Officer / Senior Officer / 2nd Division Officer
-大尉 斎藤国二朗: LT SAITO Kunijoro (70)
航海長 / 第3分隊長 Navigation Officer / 3rd Division Officer
- 中尉 田口康生: LTJG TGUCHI Yasuo (71)
機関長 / 第4分隊長 Engineer Officer / 4th Division Officer
- 大尉 竹内孝悌: LT TAKEUCHI Kotei
通信士 / 第3分隊士Assistant Communications Officer / 3rd Assistant Division Officer
- 少尉 国生健: ENS KUNIO Takeshi (72)
機関長付 Engineer Officer Attendant
- 中尉 河野太郎: LTJG KAWANO Taro
掌砲長 / 甲板士官 / 第1分隊士 Materiel Assistant to Gunnery Officer / Deck Officer / 1st Assistant Division Officer
- 少尉 菅原定春: Ens (S.D.) SUGAWARA Sadaharu
電気部附 / 第2分隊士 Electricity Attendant / 2nd Assistant Division Officer
- 少尉 松岡薫: ENS MATSUOKA Kaoru
機械長 Chief Engineer
- 少尉 平野要太郎: Engineer Warrant Officer ARIMURA Misao
掌水雷長 / 第2分隊士 Materiel Assistant to Torpedo Officer / 2nd Assistant Division Officer
- 兵曹長 山越義雄 : Warrant Officer YAMAGOSHI Yoshio
罐長 Boiler Officer
- 機曹長 坂本薫: Engineer Warrant Officer SAKAMOTO Kaoru
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第17駆逐隊附 / 軍医長補佐 Attached to 17th Destroyer Division / Medical Officer Assistant
- 中尉 山本勇志: LTJG YAMAMOTO Yuji
第10戦隊司令部附 / 航海士 / 電測士 Attached to 10th Sqadron HQ / Assistant Navigation Officer / Assistant RADAR Officer
- 少尉候補生 尾上三郎: Ensign Candidate SATO Saburo

Yukikaze.jpg

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by Eugen Pinak » 06 Feb 2021 19:18

fontessa - thank you for all the details.

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by Berend » 06 Feb 2021 23:30

Thank you Fontessa, very interesting iformation.
I assume you overlooked the minelayers in your classification of IJN ships. They must have been also classified as 軍艦 Warship because they also had a chrysanthemum emblem on the bow.

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Post by fontessa » 07 Feb 2021 00:51

Halo Berend,
Berend wrote:
06 Feb 2021 23:30
I assume you overlooked the minelayers in your classification of IJN ships. They must have been also classified as 軍艦 Warship because they also had a chrysanthemum emblem on the bow.
Thanks for the comment.
I have dropped 練習戦艦 Training Battleship, 練習巡洋艦 Training Cruiser and 敷設艦 Minelayer due to some hesitation.
The correct classification of IJN ships was:
軍艦 Warship
- 戦艦 Battleship
- 練習戦艦 Training Battleship
- 航空母艦 Aircraft Carrier
- 巡洋艦 Cruiser
- 練習巡洋艦 Training Cruiser
- 敷設艦 Minelayer
- 砲艦 Gunboat
- 潜水母艦 Submarine Tender
- 水上機母艦 Seaplane Tender
Strictly speaking 海防艦 Kaibokan was classified 軍艦 before July 1942. Because 海防艦 will be built in large numbers for convoy escort, it was out of the 軍艦 category .

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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 07 Feb 2021 00:59

Hi Fontessa
Kaibokans any of them known especially Mutsure!
Best regards ian

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Post by fontessa » 07 Feb 2021 14:19

A brief overvew of Kaibokan
占守型 Shumushu Class was extremely “elaborate”. The man-hours reached to 102,500. We can understand how "not suitable for mass production" by seeing that the man-hours for building 松型 Matsu class escort destroyer built in the latter part of the war were about 70,000. In addition to preparing for a new design that fundamentally shortens the construction period, IJN decided to continue the improvement of 占守型 Shumushu Class design. In next 択捉型 Etorofu Class including 六連 Mutsure, the man-hours was reduced to 70,000. In 御蔵型 Mikura Class after 択捉型 Etorofu Class, the man-hours was reduced to 57,000. The last of redesigned series was 鵜来型 Ukuru Class, and its man-hours was 42,000. Around this time, newly designed ships that shortened the construction period were also under construction. This was 丙型 Hei Class and a diesel engine was used. However, due to the shortage of diesel engines, half of them had to use turbine engines. This was called 丁型 Tei Class. The only difference in appearance between them was the shape of chimney due to the difference in the engine, but the shape of the hull was the same. In 占守型 Shumushu Class, it took more than a year to build, but in 丙型 Hei Class and 丁型 Tei Class, the construction period was shortened to several months due to the introduction of the block construction method.

占守型 Shumushu Class, The man-hours was 102,500
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択捉型 Etorofu Class, The man-hours was 70,000
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御蔵型 Mikura Class, The man-hours was 57,000
Mikura.jpg

鵜来型 Ukuru Class, The man-hours was 42,000
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丙型 Hei Class
Hei.jpg

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MUTSURE
Laid Down: 25 July 1942 at Hitachi Zosen Co. Ltd., Sakurajima, Osaka, Japan
Launched: 10 April 1943
Commissioned: 31 July 1943
Fate: Torpedoed and sunk 02 September 1943 by USS SNAPPER (SS-185) N of Truk, Caroline Islands (08-40N, 151-31E); 46 dead.

Commanding Officers
(CEO) - LCDR TOMIDOKORO Kotaro (52) - 25 June 1943 - 31 July 1943
LCDR TOMIDOKORO Kotaro (52) - 31 July 1943 - 2 September 1943

Gunnery Officers
(EO) – LTJG SATO Sanae (69) – 5 July 1943 – 31 July 1943
LTJG SATO Sanae (69) – 31 July 1943 – 2 September 1943

Navigators
(EO) – LTJG SUGIMOTO Yukichi (Res.) – 1 July 1943 – 31 July 1943
LTJG SUGIMOTO Yukichi (Res.) – 31 July 1943 – 2 September 1943

Chief Engineers
(EO) – LT ONO Kazuo (Res.) – 1 July 1943 – 31 July 1943
LT / LCDR* ONO Kazuo (Res.) – 31 July 1943 – 2 September 1943 (KIA)

TOMIDOKORO Kotaro
Naval Academy 52 (103/236)
BORN - ??? in Gunma Prefecture
MID - 24 July 1924
ENS - 01 December 1925
LTJG - 01 December 1927
LT - 01 December 1930
MINAZUKI Navigator - 02 November 1931 - 01 December 1932
I-60 Navigator - 01 December 1932 - 01 November 1933
LCDR - 01 December 1937
SETTSU Navigator - 15 October 1939 - 15 November 1940
(ADD) ITSUKUSHIMA Navigator - 01 February 1940 - 01 April 1940
RYUJO Navigator - 15 November 1940 - 20 August 1941
MUTSURE Chief Equipping Officer - 25 June 1943 - 31 July 1943
MUTSURE Commanding Officer - 31 July 1943 - 02 September 1943
CDR - 01 November 1943

SATO SANAE
Naval Academy 69 (338/342)
BORN - ??? in Tokyo Prefecture
MID - 25 March 1941
ENS - 01 November 1941
LTJG - 01 November 1942
MUTSURE Equipping Officer - 05 July 1943 - 31 July 1943
MUTSURE Gunnery Officer - 31 July 1943 - 02 September 1943
OKI Gunnery Officer - 21 September 1943 - 19 October 1943
LT - 15 March 1944

SUGIMOTO Yukichi
Reserve Officer 1940
ENS - 03 December 1940
LTJG - 01 November 1942
MUTSURE Equipping Officer - 01 July 1943 - 31 July 1943
MUTSURE Navigator - 31 July 1943 - 02 September 1943
LT - 15 October 1944

ONO Kazuo
Reserve Officer
LT - 01 November 1942
MUTSURE Equipping Officer - 01 July 1943 - 31 July 1943
MUTSURE Chief Engineer - 31 July 1943 - 02 September 1943
LCDR - 02 September 1943 (KIA)
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Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 10 Feb 2021 20:59

Hello Fontessa/fleet Admiral
Thanks again most kind!
Fontessa any information for the Mikura and Ojika officers only Oda Takasuka Commander Reserves is known and all hands were lost 216 killed and for the Ojika I have Isobe Teruyoshi lcmdr reserves, Yabushita Tatsugorou lt reserves Engineering officer and Sato Motoo the Navigator also an lt in the reserves presumed lost with all the crew in her sinking.

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Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 10 Feb 2021 22:08

MIKURA
Laid Down: 01 October 1942 at Nihon Kokan K.K., Tsurumi, Japan
Launched: 16 July 1943
Commissioned: 31 October 1943
Fate: Torpedoed and sunk 28 March 1945 by submarine USS THREADFIN (SS-410) off Cape Toi, Kyushu; all hands (216) lost.

Commanding Officers
(CEO) - LCDR ODA Takasuke (Res.) - 1 October 1943 - 31 October 1943
LCDR / CDR* ODA Takasuke (Res.) - 31 October 1943 - 28 March 1945 (KIA)

Gunnery Officers
(EO) – LT KAWAMATA Hachiro (Spec. Duty) – 1 October 1943 – 31 October 1943
LT / LCDR* KAWAMATA Hachiro (Spec. Duty) – 31 October 1943 – 28 March 1945 (KIA)

Navigators
(EO) – LTJG SUZUKI Shohei (Res.) – 11 October 1943 – 31 October 1943
LTJG SUZUKI Shohei (Res.) – 31 October 1943 – 25 July 1944
LTJT / LT* TAKAHASHI Toru (Res.) – 25 July 1944 – 28 March 1945 (KIA)

Chief Engineers
VACANT – 31 October 1943 – 28 March 1945

ODA Takasuke
Reserve Officer
MIKURA Chief Equipping Officer - 01 October 1943 - 31 October 1943
MIKURA Commanding Officer - 31 October 1943 - 28 March 1945
CDR - 28 March 1945 (KIA)

KAWAMATA Hachiro
Special Duty Officer
MIKURA Equipping Officer - 01 October 1943 - 31 October 1943
MIKURA Gunnery Officer - 31 October 1943 - 28 March 1945
LCDR - 28 March 1945 (KIA)

SUZUKI Shohei
Reserve Officer
MIKURA Equipping Officer - 11 October 1943 - 31 October 1943
MIKURA Navigator - 31 October 1943 - 25 July 1944

TAKAHASHI Toru
Reserve Officer
MIKURA Navigator - 25 July 1944 - 28 March 1945
LT - 28 March 1945 (KIA)

OJIKA
Laid Down: 07 September 1944 at Mitsui Engineering & Shipbuilding, Tamano, Japan
Launched: 30 December 1944
Commissioned: 21 February 1945
Fate: Torpedoed and sunk 02 May 1945 by submarine USS SPRINGER (SS-414) in Yellow Sea; all hands (226) lost.

Commanding Officers
(CEO) - LCDR ISOBE Terukichi (Res.) - 15 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
LCDR / CDR* ISOBE Terukichi (Res.) - 21 February 1945 - 2 May 1945 (KIA)

Gunnery Officers
??? - 21 February 1945 - 2 May 1945

Navigators
(EO) - LT SATO Motoyu (Res.) - 20 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
LT / LCDR* SATO Motoyu (Res.) - 21 February 1945 - 2 May 1945 (KIA)

Chief Engineers
(EO) - LT YABUSHITA Tetsugoro (Res.) - 20 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
LT / LCDR* YABUSHITA Tetsugoro (Res.) - 21 February 1945 - 2 May 1945 (KIA)

ISOBE Terukichi
Reserve Officer
W-17 Commanding Officer - 01 October 1943 - 15 January 1945
LCDR - 01 May 1944
OJIKA Chief Equipping Officer - 15 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
OJIKA Commanding Officer - 21 February 1945 - 02 May 1945
CDR - 02 May 1945 (KIA)

SATO Motoyu
Reserve Officer
OJIKA Equipping Officer - 20 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
OJIKA Navigator - 21 February 1945 - 02 May 1945
LCDR - 02 May 1945 (KIA)

YABUSHITA Tetsugoro
Reserve Officer
OJIKA Equipping Officer - 20 January 1945 - 21 February 1945
OJIKA Chief Engineer - 21 February 1945 - 02 May 1945
LCDR - 02 May 1945 (KIA)
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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 10 Feb 2021 23:57

The above!
Thanks again for Answering ijnfleetadmiral! your brilliant hopefully Fontessa can fill in the missing officers!!
Best regards Ian

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Post by fontessa » 11 Feb 2021 06:25

As I have already posted, strictly speaking MIKURA Class Kaibokan didn’t have the post of Gunnery and Navigation Officers (Navigators).
viewtopic.php?p=2112577#p2112577
viewtopic.php?p=2118108#p2118108

I would like to add the below.
MIKURA
Officers for Engineer Officer Duty
(EO) LTJG [S.D.] / LTJG [S.D.] SHINTANI Yasutaro 新谷安太郎: 1 October 1943 - 30 October 1943 (1 C12070721600)
LTJG [S.D.] / LTJG [S.D.] / LCDR* SHINTANI Yasutaro 新谷安太郎: 30 October 1943 - 28 March 1945 (KIA)

OJIKA (I have misread Kanji 男鹿 as OGA) also didn’t have the post of Navigation and Engineer Officers (Navigators and Chief Engineers).
I would like to add the below.
OJIKA
Officers for Gunnery Officer Duty
(EO) ENS (Res) / ENS (Res) KURODA Kenji 黒田憲治: 20 January 1945 - 21 February 1945 (9 C13072103100 / 5 C13072103600)
ENS (Res) / ENS (Res) / LTJG * KURODA Kenji 黒田憲治: 21 February 1945 - 2 May 1945 (KIA) (5 C13072103600)

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Re: FOR FONTESSA!

Post by IANHULKMCLEOD » 12 Feb 2021 01:11

HELLO IJNFLEETADMIRAL AND FONTESSA
THANKS AGAIN BOTH OF YOU ARE BRILLIANT!
BEST REGARDS IAN

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