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Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by lupodimare89 » 28 Jun 2018 16:54

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Greetings! Wanted to ask Finnish people (or others with knowledge on the field) if there are specific-peculiar events of both Winter War and Continuation War involving Finnish air-to-ship attacks.
This involving both:
1) possible Finnish planes crashed, shot down or damaged by Soviet NAVAL Anti-aircraft fire.
2) combat fighting between planes over convoys (Hanko evacuation in 1941?)
3) Soviet ships sunk or damaged by Finnish air-attack.

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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by Mangrove » 02 Jul 2018 18:27

lupodimare89 wrote:3) Soviet ships sunk or damaged by Finnish air-attack.
Lentolaivue 30's June-November 1941 claims on damaged or sunken Soviet ships while flying Fokker DXXI from Hyvinkää, Malmi, Utti (3 September onwards) and Suulajärvi (October onwards) airports. Sourced from Lentolaivue 30's 1941, 2./Lentolaivue 30's 1941 and Finnish Air Force HQ war diaries.

5 August 1941. 5.46 p.m. Two Fokkers attacked an "ARK-3" flying boat and an unknown Soviet warship c. 5 km east of Mohni lighthouse. While the other Fokker concentrated fire on the flying boat, the other Fokker strafed men near the ship's aft cannon. The pilot claimed five men being hit by the machine gun fire. The ship continued towards the lighthouse while the flying boat was last seen having cought fire.

9 September 1941. 8.20 - 10.30 a.m. Six Fokkers attacked a Soviet transport ship at the intersection of grids 35a and 35b. The ship stopped after the first bursts, started smoking and even some small explosions were observed on board by the pilots.

20 October 1941. 7.15 - 9.20 a.m. Two Fokkers strafed two unknown Soviet ships south of Lavansaari and Someri islands.

29 October 1941. 9.15 - 10.30 a.m. Two Fokkers attacked a Soviet guard ship and a transport ship south-west of Seivästö lighthouse and c. 15 km N of the southern coast of the Gulf of Finland. The tranport ship caught fire and the guard ship started smoking. After refueling, the two Fokkers again attacked the ships and caused the guard ship to caught fire at c. 11.05 - 11.50 a.m. Apparently the tranport ship was sunk after the second attack and before c. 1.35 - 2.25 p.m when the third Finnish patrol flight observed it.

29 October 1941. 12.30 a.m - 1.20 p.m. Six Fokkers attacked a Soviet MTB which exploded and sank near Harjavalta/Gora-Valday.

1 November 1941. 7.25 - 8.10 a.m. Six Fokkers fired upon a Soviet tug boat and 2 guard ship c. 10 km south of Koivisto. The tug boat caught fire and the guardship were rendered immobile. After refuelling, two Fokkers attacked the ships between 8.20 and 9.05 a.m. The tug boat was fully consumed by fire.

1 November 1941. 9.25 - 10.15 a.m. Six Fokkers attacked three Soviet MTB c. 5 km east of Seiskari island. All three caught fire and two exploded after a while. The third MTB exploded and sunk during the second Finnish patrol flight at 11.10 a.m. One Soviet destroyer and two gunboats were observed at the site where the three ships sunk. The Fokkers strafed the two gunboats and at least 6 men were KIA.

4 November 1941. 8.55 - 10.55 a.m. Two Fokkers engaged a Soviet gunboat c. 3 km north of Harjavalta/Gora-Valday. The ship caught fire. During a second patrol flight between 10.55 and 11.55 a.m, the ship was attacked again.

11 November 1941. 10.45 a.m. Four Fokkers strafed a Soviet MTB and guard ship c. 3 km north-west of Lavansaari island. MTB caught fire and some men were KIA at the guard ship. During return flight, three explosions were observed on the MTB. During a second patrol flight at 11.45 a.m., the guard ship was observed on fire at Lavansaari harbour. Apparently the MTB had sunk between the flights.

11 November 1941. 12.40 a.m. Two Fokkers attacked a Soviet guard ship c. 2 km east of Seiskari island. Some men were KIA at the deck. During a second patrol flight between 2.15 and 3.15 p.m, the ship was observed 500 metres south of Seiskari lighthouse. The ship was strafed again.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 03 Jul 2018 02:28

Gentlemen,

This is the first time that I heard about Finnish planes attacking Soviet surface ships on the water. The Finnish Fokkers really had to used a lot of machine gun bullets in order to sink a Soviet ship.


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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by igorr » 03 Jul 2018 03:23

29.10.41
MO-109 (ex PK-206, ex. MO-206) was sunk by 7 fighters near light Shepelevsky. Also tug GORILENKO was damaged there, maybe in same attack.
1.11.41
Patrol boat I-29 (KM-295) was sunk near light Shepelevsky by aircrafts.
Many barges and motorboats was lost with unknown circumstances while evacuating Bierke.
4.11.41
M/S Nr.55 BUYOK was damaged and stranded near light Shepelevsky by aircrafts. Soviet side claimed that attackers was "two Ju-87".
11.11.41
M/S Nr.55 BUYOK was damaged by aircrafts in Someri haven.

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Post by Mangrove » 03 Jul 2018 19:33

Some surface ship claims from May to July 1942.

12 May 1942. 3.35 - 4.45 p.m. Two Fokker C.X divebombed a Soviet tug boat and some barges at Vodla River estuary. Hits within 10 metres with 100 and 12.5 kg bombs.
26 May 1942. 3.55 a.m. A Tupolev SB bombed a Soviet guard ship at grid H 142 D 72 with 2 x 100 kg bombs, which didn't explode.
26 May 1942. 4.03 a.m. The same Tupolev SB fired upon a Soviet guard ship at grid H 143 C 75 with machine guns.
26 May 1942. 4.08 a.m. The same Tupolev SB fired upon a Soviet guard ship at grid H 143 C 19 with machine guns.
30 May 1942. 7.00 - 7.55 p.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 strafed and bombed a Soviet guard ship 5 NM south of Narvi Island. No bomb hits were observed.

31 May 1942. 6.30 - 7.30 p.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 strafed and bombed a Soviet guard ship 5 NM south of Narvi Island and another 2 NM north of Lavansaari. No direct hits were observed.
2 June 1942. 5.55 - 7.55 p.m. Two Morane-Saulnier 406 strafed a Soviet tug boat towing two barges north-west of Pudozh at Vodla River. The tug boat ran over to river bank after receiving hits.
3 June 1942. 6.00 - 7.30 p.m. A Tupolev SB bombed a Soviet guard ship 5 NM south-west of Lavansaari Island. Hits were observed 50 metres from the ship.
13 June 1942. 4.40 - 5.30 a.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed a Soviet tug boat at Lake Uikujärvi/Vygozero. The boat sank.
13 June 1942. 4.05 - 5.20 a.m. Three Brewster B-239 escorting the Blenheims strafed another Soviet tug boat which was covered in a thick plume of steam.

20 June 1942. 2.30 - 4.30 a.m. Two Morane-Saulnier 406 strafed Soviet tug boats and barges at the estuaries of Vytegra, Andoma and Vodla Rivers. No visible results.
21 June 1942. 8.10 - 10.05 p.m. Two Fokker C.X divebombed a Soviet tug boat towing a barge near Rimoila/Rimskoje. No hits were observed.
22 June 1942. 2.00 - 2.30 a.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 strafed Soviet motor boats at Lavansaari Island. Two boats caught fire.
22 June 1942. 1.55 - 3.30 p.m. A Fokker C.X divebombed four Soviet barges at Rimoila/Rimskoje pier. Hits were observed c. 10 metres away. A tug boat was bombed near the southern tip of Jänissaari Island. Hits were observed c. 40 metres away.
23 June 1942. 11.20 a.m. - 1.20 p.m. A Fokker C.V bombed four Soviet barges at "Hiekka" pier. Hits were observed c. 30 metres away. Two barges were bombed at Tsolmuinen/Tšolmuži pier. The hits were observed right next to the barges.

25 June 1942. 2.25 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships c. 10 km south-east of Someri Island.
25 June 1942. 2.30 p.m. The same Bristol Blenheims bombed a Soviet guard ship north-west of Lavansaari Island. Hits within 10-20 metres of the ship.
26 June 1942. 11.45 a.m - 1.45 p.m. A Fokker C.X dive-bombed a Soviet tug boat at Mar Navolok. Hits within 10-20 metres of the ship.
26 June 1942. 3.10 p.m. Three Bristol Blenheims bombed Fugas-class minesweepers c. 10 north of Lavansaari Island. Hits within 15-20 metres of the ships.

27 June 1942. 4.35 - 5.45 a.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships north of Peninsaari Island. Hits in the immediate vicinity of the ships.
27 June 1942. 7.15 - 8.40 a.m. Two Fokker D.XXI strafed a Soviet guard ship c. 5 km north-east of Someri Island. The ship caught fire.
27 June 1942. 12.15 a.m - 2.05 p.m. A Fokker C.X dive-bombed two tug boats armed with 40 mm cannons at "Kerso" pier. Two 12.5 kg hits were observed on the other ship. Another tug boat was strafed at Mar Navolok. The boat started smoking, but apparently the fire died out later.
27 June 1942. 2.00 - 3.20 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet MTB c. 5 km south of Someri Island. Closest hits within 5-10 metres of the boats.

29 June 1942. 11.00 - 12.15 a.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guards ships c. 15 km north-east of Peninsaari Island. Closest hits within c. 20 metres of the ships.
29 June 1942. 5.30 - 6.55 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships H 143 C 4 (c. 10 km north of Peninsaari Island). Closest hits within 10-25 metres of the ships.
29 June 1942. 10.00 - 11.20 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships at grid H 143 C 4 (c. 10 km north of Peninsaari Island). Hits within c. 40 metres from the ships. The other Blenheim was shot down by AA.

2 July 1942. 3.45 - 5.05 p.m. A Fokker C.X dive-bombed three Soviet barges at the estuary of Vodla River. Hits were observed in the immediate vicinity of the barges.
4 July 1942. 11.00 - 12.00 p.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 strafed a Soviet guard ship at Lavansaari Harbour. The ship caught fire.
5 July 1942. 00.45 - 1.45 a.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 strafed a Soviet guard ship at Shepelevskiy outside Harjavalta/Gora-Valdai. The ship caught fire.
7 July 1942. 3.00 - 4.50 a.m. A Tupolev SB bombed three Soviet guard ships and one larger ship south-west of Someri Island. Closest hits within 10-20 metres from the ships.
7 July 1942. 3.30 - 5.10 a.m. Six Fiat G.50 and three Brewster B-239 strafed 16 Soviet guard ships east of Someri. Four ships started smoking.

8 July 1942. 3.30 - 5.50 a.m. Six Fokker D.XXI strafed Soviet vessels at Someri Island.
8 July 1942. 6.15 - 8.50 a.m. Six Fokker D.XXI strated Soviet vessels at Someri Island. One MTB sank.
8 July 1942. 10.05 - 11.50 a.m. Four Fokker D.XXI strafed Soviet vessels at Someri Island.
8 July 1942. 2.30 - 3.20 p.m. Five Fokker D.XXI strafed three Soviet MTB at Someri Island.
8 July 1942. 5.10 - 6.50 p.m. Six Fokker D.XXI strafed a Soviet guard ship at Someri Island.
8 July 1942. 6.10 - 8.25 p.m. Three Dornier Do 17 bombed Soviet vessels at Someri Island. No observed hits.
8 July 1942. 6.10 - 8.35 p.m. Three Dornier Do 17 bombed Soviet guard ships c. 15 km north of Lavansaari Island. Hits in the immediate vicinity of the vessels.

9 July 1942. 5.25 - 6.40 a.m. Three Bristol Blenheim bombed two Soviet Fugas-class minesweepers south of Someri Island. Hits within c. 10 metres from the ships.
9 July 1942. 11.00 a.m - 1.15 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheim bombed a Soviet gunboat south of Someri Island. No observed hits.
9 July 1942. 11.00 a.m. - 1.15 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheim bombed a Soviet gunboat south of Someri Island. Direct hit to the aft with a 100 kg bomb.
9 July 1942. 11.00 a.m. - 1.15 p.m. Three Bristol Blenheim bombed a Soviet gunboat south of Someri Island. Hits to the aft.

13 July 1942. 11.55 a.m - 1.20 p.m. Two Gloster Gladiators strafed three Soviet boats at Tsolmuinen/Tšolmuži.


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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by Juha Tompuri » 25 Jul 2018 21:34

Claims:
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Capt Ahonius and 2nd Ltn Niemeier in front of a I-153 fighter at airfield Römpötti. 1942.07.09.
Four enemy MTB and two aerial kill claims at the rudder


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Ltn Ruohola and his Fokker D21. Claims: three ships/boats and two aircraft.
Suulajärvi airfield 1941.11.13
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Post by lupodimare89 » 28 Jul 2018 09:23

Mangrove wrote:
03 Jul 2018 19:33
29 June 1942. 10.00 - 11.20 p.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships at grid H 143 C 4 (c. 10 km north of Peninsaari Island). Hits within c. 40 metres from the ships. The other Blenheim was shot down by AA.
There are some more detail about this Blenheim loss?



I found an interesting fight occurred during Winter War in Ladoga Lake:

29 January 1940

6 Fokker C.X attacked with dive bombing attack Soviet anchored ships at Saunasaari in two separate waves.
First wave:
First plane missed.
Second plane hit, caught fire and broke into pieces by combined fire from gunboats "Oranienbaum", "Razvedchik" and "Dozorni"
Third plane damaged minesweeper n°34

Second wave scattered due AA fire:
First plane dropped the bombs successfully on minesweepers: n°32 sunk
Second plane damaged by fire, hit at undercarriage and lost the skies.
Third plane machine-gunned a AA battery.

Apart the above mentioned losses, also "Razvedchik" suffered splinter damages. Soviets suffered 2 KIA.
Soviets claimed 2 planes down: it was only one (FK-111) from the first wave, both airmen killed.
Damaged plane on second wave was FK-89, pilot made a successful belly-landing at airbase.

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Post by Mangrove » 29 Jul 2018 08:58

lupodimare89 wrote:
28 Jul 2018 09:23
There are some more detail about this Blenheim loss?
While flying in wedge formation with BL-158 from NW to SE at 1200 metres, BL-132 was shot down by ship-based 20 or 40 mm anti-aircraft fire. Crew was KIA: Lt. Risto Kuusava (pilot), Lt. Herbert Stünkel (bombardier) and Sgt. Risto Räty (gunner).

Räty had previously claimed a I-16 (155 IAP, A. N. Vasiljev) near Petroskoi/Petrozavodsk while flying on BL-137 on 1 July 1941.

From III/RTR 12's diary, based in and around Haapasaari Island:
"29 June 1942. 10.35 p.m. Narvi and Someri (Islands) observed several guard ships between Seiskari and Peninsaari (Islands) being bombed by two of our twin-engine planes. The other plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire from the guard ships and exploded mid-air. The plane was destroyed at grid 143 C 46".
29.6.1942. 22.35. Havaitsi Narvi ja Someri Seiskarin ja Peninsaaren välillä useimpia VMV veneitä, joita kaksi omaa 2 moottorista konetta kävi pommittamassa. VMV veneiden it. tulen vaikutuksesta toinen pommikoneista sai osuman ja räjähti ilmassa. Kone tuhoutui ruudussa 143 C 46.
lupodimare89 wrote:
28 Jul 2018 09:23
I found an interesting fight occurred during Winter War in Ladoga Lake:
Mission report by Lentolaivue 10. The second page hasn't been digitised, but can be mostly deciphered due to the transparent first page. I believe there is also fairly detailed description of the mission on Geust's book Red Stars 7.

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Post by lupodimare89 » 29 Jul 2018 15:23

Thanks for the detailed replies! Yeah, i read translation of winter war clash, but it appears it has already been detailed around.

When I have time, I will re-check a bit for the activities of MO-4 boats in June-July 1942, by possibilies and weapon size (20-40mm similar to the standard 45mm) quite clearly we are speaking of that widespread type.

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lupodimare89 wrote:
28 Jul 2018 09:23
I found an interesting fight occurred during Winter War in Ladoga Lake:

29 January 1940

6 Fokker C.X attacked with dive bombing attack Soviet anchored ships at Saunasaari in two separate waves.
First wave:
First plane missed.
Second plane hit, caught fire and broke into pieces by combined fire from gunboats "Oranienbaum", "Razvedchik" and "Dozorni"
Third plane damaged minesweeper n°34

Second wave scattered due AA fire:
First plane dropped the bombs successfully on minesweepers: n°32 sunk
Second plane damaged by fire, hit at undercarriage and lost the skies.
Third plane machine-gunned a AA battery
At the Finnish report, Mangrove posted
Mission report by Lentolaivue 10
the things went slightly different way:

First plane: the row of bombs across the ship targetted, so 100kg bombs probably direct hits.
2nd plane: shot down
3rd plane: landing gear shot off. Electric 100kg bomb drop system damaged, only the 12,5kg ones could be released. Probable hits.
4th plane: because of the events about the previous incidents, the plane went to inverted dive and couldn't release the bombs.
5th plane: the bombs probably hit very well, but because of the fire and smoke, precise observations were difficult to make.
6th plane: row of bombs across the another big ship. Probable direct hits.

No mention of two differt waves, nor strafing.
lupodimare89 wrote:Second plane hit, caught fire and broke into pieces by combined fire from gunboats "Oranienbaum", "Razvedchik" and "Dozorni"
According to
http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/fin ... pikir.html
http://iv70.narod.ru/IV2/LadBoi.html
There was also a land based 76mm(?) 90th Battery that took part to the harbour defence.

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Post by Mangrove » 01 Aug 2019 09:11

lupodimare89 wrote:
28 Jun 2018 16:54
3) Soviet ships sunk or damaged by Finnish air-attack.
From Lentolaivue 6's war diary:

1 July 1941. 4.25 p.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed six Soviet motor torpedo boats five nautical miles north-west of Paldiski, Estonia. Closest hits were observed half a length of ahead one of the boats. Two boats stayed put, while other dispersed.

2 July 1941. 5.53 p.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet submarine at periscope depth near Tallinn, Estonia. No confirmation if there were hits or even if the bombs exploded.

3 July 1941. 5.35 a.m. Two Polikarpov I-153 from Lentolaivue 6 strafed a Soviet guard ship near Russarö.

6 July 1941. 12 noon. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet motor boat and a guard ship near Suursaari. No hits were observed.

8 July 1941. 10.05 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet 40 metres long freighter at anchor near Loksa, Estonia. Closest hits were 100 metres away. 9 July 1941. 11.20 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed probably the same freighter as on the previous day at Loksa. The freighter was now listing a bit. No close hits were observed. The stern was observed to be underwater when a Tupolev flew over the freighter at 2.32 p.m. on 13 July. Yet another Tupolev bombed the freighter at 10.40 a.m. on 24 July 1941. The closest hits were observed c. 20 metres from the side.

9 July 1941. 7.05 p.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet convoy of 12 ships near the Estonian coast. No close hits were observed. Another Tupolev bombed the same convoy at 9.00 - 9.05 p.m. The closest hits were observed 30-40 metres from a large freighter.

10 July 1941. 7.05 p.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed six Soviet minesweepers at Gulf of Finland. Hits couldn't be observed due to enemy fighters.

22 July 1941. 7.40 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet 2500 ton freighter in a convoy between east of Loksa, Estonia. The closest hits were c. 20 metres away.

24 July 1941. 6.35 p.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet freighter at Mohni ("Ekholm") lighthouse at Estonia. Closest hits were c. 15 metres away. The same vessel was observed to be still afloat on 29 July 1941.

25 July 1941. 2.35 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet 1000-1500 ton freighter south of Suursaari. Closes hits were several tens of metres away. Same plane bombed and strafed a large freighter at a Soviet convoy at 2.52 p.m. Direct hits were observed.

28 July 1941. 4.36 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed and strafed a Soviet freighter with escort vessels at Gulf of Finland. No hits were observed. Same plane bombed a submarine at surface at 4.56 a.m. Closest hits were several tens of metres away. The plane also strafed a motor torpedo boat at 4.58 a.m.

31 July 1941. 6.40 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet 3000-4000 ton freighter near Juminda, Estonia. Nearest hits were observed 10-15 metres away.

2 August 1941. 4.35 a.m. Tupolev SB from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet guardship east of Tallinn, Estonia. No hits were observed.

3 August 1941. 7.25 p.m. Tupolev from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a Soviet 2000-3000 ton freighter equipped with at least with 20 and 40 mm cannons east of Juminda, Estonia. No hits were observed.

2 September 1941. 6.20 and 7.00 a.m. Tupolev from Lentolaivue 6 strafed Soviet convoys east of Tallinn.

25 November 1941. 9.50 a.m. Tupolev from Lentolaivue 6 bombed a large Soviet freighter in a convoy west of Suursaari. Bombs failed to detonate.

3 December 1941. 2.50 p.m. Tupolev from Lentolaivue 6 strafed a Soviet motor torpedo boat in a convoy near Ruuskeri. The boat exploded while avoiding machine gun fire and sank. Three life boats were observed.

4 December 1941. 10.05 a.m. Tupolev from Lentolaivue 6 strafed two Soviet motor boats near Kallbåda. The plane also bombed a guard ship near Russarö.

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Post by lupodimare89 » 01 Aug 2019 10:29

Mangrove wrote:
03 Jul 2018 19:33
27 June 1942. 4.35 - 5.45 a.m. Two Bristol Blenheims bombed two Soviet guard ships north of Peninsaari Island. Hits in the immediate vicinity of the ships.
According sovnavyww2 site list, MO-201 (ex-MO-108, ex-PK-201) sunk on that day at Penisari (but no other MO-4 lost at Someri that day, but maybe was some other boaat).

In addition to the above mentioned (by igor) loss of MO-109 (ex PK-206, ex. MO-206) of 29 October 1941, I have singled out other only other three MO-4 fully described as sunk by Air attack in the whole Baltic:

MO-305 (ex-MO-508) on 28 September 1941 at Someri.

MO-404 (ex-MO-206, ex-MO-210, ex-PK-220) on 13 May 1944 at Lavensaari.

Also another MO-201 (ex-ZK-8, ex-MO-110, ex-PK-210) described as sunk by German air raid on 15 August 1942 at Seskar


((This is only a general check of the MO-4 type boats alone, also there could be some missing ones)).

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Post by lupodimare89 » 01 Aug 2019 10:35

Ok, made a check for older MO-type boats. Two MO-2 type were also lost in Baltic:

MO-177 (ex-MO-704, ex-PK-177) sunk at Lavensaari on 22 June 1943


(( MO-405 (ex-PK-216) sunk at Saaremaa, clearly unlikely a Finnish victory? on 16 September 1941))

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Post by Mangrove » 05 Aug 2019 08:50

lupodimare89 wrote:
28 Jun 2018 16:54
3) Soviet ships sunk or damaged by Finnish air-attack.
forum.axishistory.com - Soviet Naval Battles (help with info):
The Finnish watch stations along the Lake Onega spotted two Soviet gunboats and a large tugboat c. 10 kilometers south-west of Vasilisin Island on 1 June 1943. Three Fokker C.X light bombers were dispatched to bomb the boats. The observation stations saw the sinking of "a tugboat" (actually gunboat Nr. 12 / KALYAEV) a minute after the attack. One other ship received a minor hit on the aft and another on the bow. Later that day a Finnish reconnaissance flight observed a damaged gunboat taking on water near the mouth of the Vodla River.

Lentolaivue 16 - War diary
Äänisen rannikkoprikaati - War Diary
Äänisen rannikkoprikaati - Summary of the attack

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Miscellaneous 1942 claims based on the war diaries of Ilmavoimien Esikunta and various squadrons.

2 August 1942. Fokker C.X from Lentolaivue 16 bombed a large Soviet vessel circa 4 kilometres west of Vodla River. Hits were observed circa 40 metres away.

6 August 1942. Two Polikarpov I-153 from Lentolaivue 6 strafed a Soviet guard ship next a tugboat half way between Lavansaari and Peninsaari. Hits were observed on the guard ship.

7 August 1942. Two Polikarpov I-153 from Lentolaivue 6 strafed a Soviet guard ship circa 2 kilometres east of Lavansaari.

10 August 1942. Three Fokker C.X from Lentolaivue 16 bombed and sank a Soviet barge loaded with timber at "Hiekka" pier.

11 August 1942. Three Fokker C.X from Lentolaivue 16 strafed Soviet motor boats between Vodla and Tsolmuta after bombing Pestsanoje village.

20 August 1942. Two Gloster Gladiators from Lentolaivue 16 strafed and sank a rowboat with sails carrying 5-6 men at Lake Onega near Vodla River.

21 August 1942. Fokker C.X from Lentolaivue 16 bombed a Soviet gun boat circa 12 kilometres south-west of the western edge of Muromskajajärvi / Ozero Muromskoye at Lake Onega. A 100 kg bomb hit the immediately vicinity of the bow, another 10 metres from the boat and at least four 12.5 kg bombs hit the deck. Another gun boat was observed in the north coming to assist the other one. 40mm anti-aircraft fire was observed from the gun boats.

21 August 1942. Three Fokker C.X from Lentolaivue 16 bombed two Soviet minesweepers (or similar) 9 kilometres east the mouth of Vodla River. The closest hits were observed circa 5-10 metres from the ships.

23 August 1942. Two Polikarpov I-153 from Lentolaivue 6 strafed a Soviet motorised barge carrying men at the west end of Peninsaari. The barge went ashore.

30 August 1942. Four Fokker D.XXI from Lentolaivue 14 strafed a Soviet tugboat and two motor boats at Kuusijärvi dockyard and a motor boat south of Kuusiniemi / Куусиниеми. Fuel tank near the dockyard and the motor boat caught fire. Four Fokkers strafed the same boats again on 31 August 1942.

1 September 1942. Six Fiat G.50 from Lentolaivue 26 strafed three Soviet guard ships near Verkkosaari at Lake Ladoga between 10.40 and 11.40 a.m. Italian MAS boat was damaged in a firefight as was a Soviet ship. Another two Fiat G.50 later strafed the same ships circa 13 kilometres east of Taipale.

22 September 1942. Two Fiat G.50 from Lentolaivue 26 strafed and left drifting a rowboat carrying two men two kilometres south-east of Taipaleenluoto at Lake Ladoga.

4 October 1942. Three Morane-Saulnier 406 from Lentolaivue 28 strafed a Soviet gun boat two kilometres south of Cape Besov Nos / Бесов Нос at Lake Onega. Planes also strafed a tugboat located circa 5 kilometres away from the mouth of Vytegra River.

4 October 1942. Fokker C.V from Lentolaivue 14 strafed a Soviet motor boat at Luusalmi.

6 October 1942. Two Morane-Saulnier 406 from Lentolaivue 14 strafed a Soviet tugboat at Kuusiniemi. The boat caught fire.

10 October 1942. Two Morane-Saulnier 406 from Lentolaivue 28 strafed a Soviet tugboat pulling two barges at Lake Megorskoje / Ozero Megrskoye.

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