Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by GeoffMNZ » 26 Aug 2016 02:47

Urmel wrote:Vettor-Pisani left Tripoli with British POW on 27 Dec 1941. The only ship to leave the harbour that day. Vettor Pisani was a modern fast merchant, launched in 1939, 6,339GRT. She was finally heavily damaged in an air attack in September 1942 off the Ionic islands, and scuttled in shallow water at Argostoli. She was eventually recovered after the war, re-entered service and was broken up in 1971.

http://www.archeologiaindustriale.it/se ... oto_id=838
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Thanks for the info. Any idea of the numbers of POW and can you confirm that Naples was the destination?
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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by jwsleser » 01 Sep 2016 02:36

Geoff

I don't have the number of POWs, but Napoli was the destination. Departed Tripoli at 1800 on 27 Dec 41, arrived Napoli 29 Dec at 1030 hrs. Escorted by the Tp Partenope e Pollice.

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by tigre » 01 Jan 2017 17:20

Hello to all :D; a little complement..............................

Naples - Tripoli 1941.

On February 28, 1941, Panzer-Regiment 5 embarked in Wünsdorf heading towards Naples. In Naples, the regiment was loaded into 5 ships with an average of 10,000-12,000 tons. The convoy was formed by the transports "Wachtfels", "Reichenfels", "Acturus", "Alicante" and "Leverkusen" and departure on March 7, 1941.
Panzers in the Sand - The History of the Panzer-Regiment 5, Vol. 1, 1935-41.

In the period from March 26 to April 10, 1941, the final preparations for a transport to the war theater in Libya were executed. On April 11, the I / PR 8 began its loading in Schwetzingen, for the rail transport by the Brennero - Florence - Rome - Naples. From here, the regiment will be transported by sea in 3 convoys to Africa. The vessels of the convoy were: Leverkusen, Rialto, Ankara, Burma, Gritti, Kybfels, Poscarini, Reichenfeld and Venerio. On the night of 13 to 14 April 1941, the first transport train arrived in Naples ........
Http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR8-R.htm

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http://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-conte ... 41_DAK.jpg

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by GeoffMNZ » 25 Jan 2017 00:00

jwsleser wrote:Geoff

I don't have the number of POWs, but Napoli was the destination. Departed Tripoli at 1800 on 27 Dec 41, arrived Napoli 29 Dec at 1030 hrs. Escorted by the Tp Partenope e Pollice.

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Jeff,
I have just read "Taking Life as It Comes" by John Bettle and he says ;
"to tripoli, put aboard another stinking tramp steamer which I learned was taking us to Naples. Once again we had to cross the sunken ship by means of planks. There was a terrible smell about the vessel and it was the only time I was seasick on a ship. It was also the only time I prayed that there would be no British subs in the vicinity. Three days later and on NY Eve (1941/42) the steamer arrived at Naples."
I have read similar in another private memoir. Do you know what ship this would have been?

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by Urmel » 25 Jan 2017 10:43

Ankara left with 1,000 POW on 29 12 41 and arrived Naples at 1100 hours 1 1 42.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by tigre » 10 Sep 2017 00:35

Hello to all :D; another complement..............................

Transfer of the 164th I.D. (IR.382.) From Crete to Tobruk - 09/10 July 1942.

On the basis of the progress in North Africa, the Wehrmachtsbefehlshaber Südost ordered the transport of Infantry Regiment 382 and 3./Bat. Pioneer 220 with equipment (previously Festungsdivision Kreta) from Crete to Africa. Admiral Aegean suggests: transport with three Citta steamers, equipment with two additional steamers.

The ships involved were transports Citta di Alessandria, Citta di Savona, Citta di Agrigento, Delos, Santa Fe, warships Sirio, Cassiopeia, U-Jäger 2104, 2107,Mitragliere, ZG3...................

Sources: http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/41-02.htm
http://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/index ... bruk-1942/
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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by tigre » 01 Apr 2018 00:35

Hello to all :D; another complement..............................

The Panzer Regiment 8 bound to Libya 1941.

Sources: https://www.ebay.de/itm/R321-Foto-Wehrm ... 0037.m2107

Any idea about this particular ship? Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Post by Rnox » 01 Apr 2018 11:08

Any idea about this ship?

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by tigre » 01 Apr 2018 14:50

Thank you very much Rnox, fully useful indeed :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-)
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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by Dili » 02 Apr 2018 15:45

Rnox the MG in bridge winds don't seem Italian even if covered.

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Post by tigre » 14 Apr 2020 15:35

Hello to all :D; more.............................

The Panzer Regiment 5 bound to Libya 1941.

Sources: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missing ... 9-s40.html

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by Felix C » 16 Apr 2020 19:33

Is there a listing of all the ships sunk on the run to/fro North Africa?

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by Urmel » 18 Apr 2020 10:39

The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Re: Axis shipping in the Mediterranean

Post by LColombo » 18 Apr 2020 11:17

Felix C wrote:
16 Apr 2020 19:33
Is there a listing of all the ships sunk on the run to/fro North Africa?
Yes, there is one in the appendix of the USMM book La difesa del traffico con l'Africa Settentrionale dal 1° ottobre 1942 alla caduta della Tunisia. I can translate and post it here if needed.

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