German planning concerning the armored counteroffensive in Normandy

[Aida1]

Last ones.Enough time wasted.

[Mori]

They are the most repetitive and boring books that exist; but, after all, pornography is not about variety (as Marquis de Sade once said).

Boring to read, yes. They are, however, very valuable if you want to know a certain fact (location, structure, strength) about a formation concerning a certain time (Kursk 1943 e.g.).

But what's the point in looking for such detailed information if you are not a veteran of said unit and not into research / publication either?

[Mori]

Last ones.Enough time wasted.

Especially for someone who claimed not to be interested in a pissing contest! Because that's what you just did.

You should see my smile!

[Mori]

Last ones.Enough time wasted.

(Let me try more)

All that is nice, but that's miles away from the "primary sources" you claimed to be familiar with. I couldn't see any such thing on your pics. Don't tell me the best you have is Percy Schramm's OKH diary.

[Aida1]

They are the most repetitive and boring books that exist; but, after all, pornography is not about variety (as Marquis de Sade once said).

Boring to read, yes. They are, however, very valuable if you want to know a certain fact (location, structure, strength) about a formation concerning a certain time (Kursk 1943 e.g.).

But what's the point in looking for such detailed information if you are not a veteran of said unit and not into research / publication either?

The point is that i like very detailed books on the german army in ww2.

[Aida1]

Last ones.Enough time wasted.

Especially for someone who claimed not to be interested in a pissing contest! Because that's what you just did.

You should see my smile!

It is not about a pissing contest. You doubted my reading so i needed to prove you wrong.

[Aida1]

Last ones.Enough time wasted.

(Let me try more)

All that is nice, but that's miles away from the "primary sources" you claimed to be familiar with. I couldn't see any such thing on your pics. Don't tell me the best you have is Percy Schramm's OKH diary.

If you had bothered to look; you would have seen all the texts i translated and posted on this forum.. I got thousands of images of NARA captured german records on my computer which i ordered from digital history archive. Just bought some directly from NARA the last few days.

[Mori]

The point is that i like very detailed books on the german army in ww2.

You are definitively more a person who sees the trees rather than the forest.

[Mori]

If you had bothered to look; you would have seen all the texts i translated and posted on this forum.. I got thousands of images of NARA captured german records on my computer which i ordered from digital history archive. Just bought some directly from NARA the last few days.

"Thousands" of images is not impressive, given than one single roll typically holds 1,200 pages. So you are just saying you got 2 rolls.

[Aida1]

The point is that i like very detailed books on the german army in ww2.

You are definitively more a person who sees the trees rather than the forest.

Hybris. First you look at the forest and then the trees. First one starts with general works and then one moves to more and more detailed works which also means div histories.

[Aida1]

If you had bothered to look; you would have seen all the texts i translated and posted on this forum.. I got thousands of images of NARA captured german records on my computer which i ordered from digital history archive. Just bought some directly from NARA the last few days.

"Thousands" of images is not impressive, given than one single roll typically holds 1,200 pages. So you are just saying you got 2 rolls.

Actually, i have 9 so more than 10.000 images. And i am looking for specific informations on german armored tactics mostly.

[Westphalia1812]

They are the most repetitive and boring books that exist; but, after all, pornography is not about variety (as Marquis de Sade once said).

Boring to read, yes. They are, however, very valuable if you want to know a certain fact (location, structure, strength) about a formation concerning a certain time (Kursk 1943 e.g.).

But what's the point in looking for such detailed information if you are not a veteran of said unit and not into research / publication either?

Some divisional histories go beyond their own formation and actually analyse the campaigns. One of the more interesting ones I have read was the history of the 116th Pz Div. At some point the author (who served as an officer in said division) not only criticized the higher comand (OB. West and HGr. B) but even his own divisional command.

[Westphalia1812]

Another three that you should add:

Der Panzer und die Mechanisierung des Krieges: Eine deutsche Geschichte 1890 bis 1945
Markus Pöhlmann

Der Unterführer als Feldherr im Taschenformat: Theorie und Praxis der Auftragstaktik im deutschen Heer 1869 bis 1945
Marco Sigg

Wehrmacht im Ostkrieg: Front und militärisches Hinterland 1941/42
Christian Hartmann
That one is (legally) available for free here: https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/ ... ml?lang=de

[Richard Anderson]

You got to love how certain posters always manage to derail topics in order to make it all about themselves - and no, Mori, I am not talking about you.

To get back to things, a comparison of munitions shipped may be difficult, since U.S. Ordnance Class V supplies landed over the beaches included ammunition of all types: bombs, explosives, mines, fuses, detonators, pyrotechnics, missiles, rockets, propellants, and associated items. thus including those meant for the USAAF units on the Continent (figures for A.O.K. 7 exclude supplies for Luftwaffe air units). Given that caveat, ADSEC landed roughly 250,000 long tons (226,796 metric tons) on the Continent from 6-30 June. What is interesting is that is from a total of 289,827 to 291,333 long tons of cargo, including rations but excluding POL, landed in the same period. So about 86% was munitions.

[Aida1]

They are the most repetitive and boring books that exist; but, after all, pornography is not about variety (as Marquis de Sade once said).

Boring to read, yes. They are, however, very valuable if you want to know a certain fact (location, structure, strength) about a formation concerning a certain time (Kursk 1943 e.g.).

But what's the point in looking for such detailed information if you are not a veteran of said unit and not into research / publication either?

Some divisional histories go beyond their own formation and actually analyse the campaigns. One of the more interesting ones I have read was the history of the 116th Pz Div. At some point the author (who served as an officer in said division) not only criticized the higher comand (OB. West and HGr. B) but even his own divisional command.

Indeed a very good one. When the author is a staff officer you are more likely to have a more interesting divisional history.