Roadblock at MoteLimar holds
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Kingfish
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Roadblock at MoteLimar holds
i don't have enough data to flesh out a proper WI so I'll present it here: What would have been the result, both tactical and strategic, if the roadblock at Montelimar was successful in preventing the German 19th army from retreating up the Rhone valley?
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Carl Schwamberger
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Re: Roadblock at MoteLimar holds
How many PoW are expected in this?
Bagging another 50 or 100 k German combat soldiers weakens the general defense, and specifically the Alsace/Vosges ect... Best case is the 7th Army is able to cross the Rhine in a coup in early October. more likely is no extended Vosges battle, Colmar pocket ect... If its 25k or less then the gains may not be noticeable over OTL.
Bagging another 50 or 100 k German combat soldiers weakens the general defense, and specifically the Alsace/Vosges ect... Best case is the 7th Army is able to cross the Rhine in a coup in early October. more likely is no extended Vosges battle, Colmar pocket ect... If its 25k or less then the gains may not be noticeable over OTL.
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Re: Roadblock at MoteLimar holds
That's the reason why I didn't post this as a WI; I don't have a good idea of what was trying to escape up highway 7.
11th Panzer is obvious, but who else accompanied them, who acted as rearguard against US 3rd ID and who remained behind in Marseille/Toulon?
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Carl Schwamberger
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Re: Roadblock at MoteLimar holds
From memory
216 (?) & 244 static divisions were the garrisons destroyed in Marsaille & Toulon. 146 Training Division & 242 Inf Div were largely destroyed in the fighting on the Cote d Azur. The 146may have retreated to Italy. 272, 277, & 271 ID had been guarding the coast west of the Rhone river & were probably in the retreat. 157 Training div had been involved in partisan suppression in the Grenoble region. Im unsure if it retreated east to Italy across the Alps, or north to Germany
216 (?) & 244 static divisions were the garrisons destroyed in Marsaille & Toulon. 146 Training Division & 242 Inf Div were largely destroyed in the fighting on the Cote d Azur. The 146may have retreated to Italy. 272, 277, & 271 ID had been guarding the coast west of the Rhone river & were probably in the retreat. 157 Training div had been involved in partisan suppression in the Grenoble region. Im unsure if it retreated east to Italy across the Alps, or north to Germany