SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by FlyingStukas » 21 Jan 2019 02:28

Brilliant, love that little exchange :D

That’s exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by offizier1916 » 22 Jan 2019 22:26

i think ist fair to say that Divisions like Prinz Eugen and Florian Geyer were full of war criminals that were torturing and murdering basically only local civilians and jews. and all this under the guise of "anti partizan-actions"

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Post by FlyingStukas » 22 Jan 2019 22:35

Hey there Ofizzier1916,

Whilst Prinz Eugen was certainly notorious for its war crimes, I encourage you to stay in lane, if you're mentioning a specific war crime, make a specific thread or post it alongside a fitting image. This sort of whataboutism does not contribute.

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by FlyingStukas » 11 Feb 2019 20:54

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know who this SS-Standartenführer is? He has the German Cross medal and I'm quite sure he is depcited somewhere in Bosnia (Muslim men and a Mosque in the background). Quite an interesting photo, would love to know the details.

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 11 Feb 2019 20:58

Hello, Filip

It's Schmidhuber as commander of the newly-formed Albanian SS division, Priština, 1944.

For more info, see: http://bandenkampf.blogspot.com/2015/08/bk0016.html

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by FlyingStukas » 11 Feb 2019 21:42

Hello,Ivan
ahh its Schmidhuber. Thanks for the help as always, much appreciated. (Albania also explains the Mosque in the back)

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 Feb 2019 12:21

Hello, Filip

It's occupied Yugoslavia (Serbia), not Albania (there are many mosques in Serbia, mostly built during the Turkish rule).

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Post by FlyingStukas » 12 Mar 2019 13:01

I apologize in advance for the lack of source on the photo, I believe it came from the Facebook group "Sarajevo forever" after one of the users shared it to the admin from their private collection.

Anyways, long story short, its another one belonging to the now formidable photo collection of the Lav Cemetery in Sarajevo, naturally related to the 7. SS-Division "Prinz Eugen". The background corresponds to other photos posted of this nature, mid 1944 in Sarajevo.

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 Mar 2019 13:36

Hello, Filip

A nice photo, too bad the quality is so low. Notice the army (Heer) priest in the centre. Not sure that the soldiers are SS men though; there's no insignia visible.

Perhaps the last two posts (mine being the 2nd) would fit better in this topic viewtopic.php?f=50&t=239975

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Post by FlyingStukas » 11 May 2019 13:59

Members of the SS "Prinz Eugen" during "Unternehmen Schwarz", fully camouflaged firing from a Czech "Zb vz. 26" Machine Gun. Any indication whether this specific shot was taken in Montenegro or Bosnia and Herzegovina? (btw I slightly restored the original photo)

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 12 May 2019 10:51

The end of the first phase of the operation = Montenegro. (The next Kemps' film shows the division staff near Gacko between the two phases.)

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Post by Michal.J » 02 Jan 2021 10:58

Ivan Ž. wrote:
22 Jan 2006 12:45
Marc Rikmenspoel wrote:Ivan, I missed replying earlier, sorry, but I want to point out now that I still do believe that "Russia 1943" is simply an error. The photos are almost certainly taken at Kienschlag...
Well, Kienschlag makes more sence than Russia, that is for sure.
I guess it must be an error on the back of the second photo then.
...but they must have been taken after 21.VI 1943, because Phleps has a rank of SS-Ogruf.

Check this out: these are parts of two photos published in Kumm's History of PE.
They were taken in Mostar during SS-PE parade on 8.VII 1943.

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source (internet)

I believe I've recognized (from left) von Oberkamp, Schmidhuber and Eberhardt.
So, Eberhardt was still in SS-PE in July 1943.
As I wrote before, in his bio (that I've managed to find so far) he was in SS-PE until June 1943.
And there's a gap between June 1943 and October 1943, when he was assigned to SS-T Division.
As I also wrote before, I believe he was with Phleps in Gebirgskorps,
but I still didn't get any confirmation...

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Hi!
I think i'd seen of same photo but other moment of your photo which you posted here with Kumm, Phleps and upper left tall Kempin in front of T-34 chasis with HHL 3 mine:

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source (internet)


Please compare it.:

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source(Clara (alias Lohengrin)

I live near former training center Kienschlag in Czech Republic and i collect everything about its history. Please do you thing, do you have another photo from Kienschlag? Thanks.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Jan 2021 12:03

Hello, Michal, and :welcome:

There was another photo from Kienschlag posted on p. 22 of this thread (from eBay, Nov. 2005), but it disappeared in time. Here it is again:
Kumm Phleps.jpg

You'll find another photo (showing Phleps, Kumm and Kempin) in Yerger's Streifzüge, p. 115.

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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by Michal.J » 02 Jan 2021 12:51

Thank you for photo and information.

Next photo with Phleps and Kempin:

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(Source http://beutepanzer.ru/)

But on these two photos i dont know who is it instead of tall Kempin:

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(Source http://beutepanzer.ru/)
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Re: SS-Division "Prinz Eugen" photos

Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Jan 2021 14:15

Thanks for the photos, Michal, but please also credit the sources. The first one you posted (with red markers) originates from Clara (alias Lohengrin); what about the other three?

By the way, notice there's a Hungarian officer in the last image, on the right, with a sabre.

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