Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by Hardigan » 30 Jul 2022 21:15

What a coincidence! I know of some errors on that site but for now you must hold that D.O.D. and then it must be someone else.

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 03 Aug 2022 10:08

Another ace:

Oberleutnant Hans Walz - Pz.Abt.103 - 60 kills
Rurfront 1944/45: - Pag. 310
3. Infanterie-Division, 3. Infanterie-Division (mot.), 3. Panzergrenadier-Division Pasg. 368
Bei diesen Abwehrkämpfen schießt Lt. Walz , der mit 58 Panzern die höchste Abschuszahl buchen kann , zwei weitere Sherman ab

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 11 Aug 2022 06:55

Gentlemen,

Is there anymore new names of Panzer Commander Aces from the Waffen-SS that you care to share? So far these new names of these panzer aces that are mentioned are from the Heer.
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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 11 Aug 2022 09:56

ok!

Ostuf. Berndt Lubich von Milovam - SS-Stug/Pzjgabt. 3 - KC/DKiG - 46 panzerkills
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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 13 Aug 2022 09:38

Hardigan wrote:
30 Jul 2022 21:15
What a coincidence! I know of some errors on that site but for now you must hold that D.O.D. and then it must be someone else.

You were right, Tracesofwar was wrong, Altmann did not die in 42.
So that's right Karl Atmann - 42 kills - Pzjgabt 160
It must be Karl Altmann who won the DKiG already in 1942 as a Gefreiter in Panzerjäger-Abteilung 160 - 60. Infanterie Division.

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 13 Aug 2022 09:42

Hardigan wrote:
14 Jun 2022 00:05
Thanks for the article. It looks indeed like the case of Knispel, he should have received the Knights Cross if!! he was that whole period a panzer commander, what I don't know. You never know what was going on. These are exceptional cases but I'll put him in the list for now.

They are mentioning also a Feldwebel Schimock with over 70 panzerkills, does anyone know his first name and which awards he had?
As per information received in another post, it should be:
Fw. Herbert Schönrock, a tank commander of 3./s.Pz.Abt. 503

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by Hardigan » 13 Aug 2022 18:45

Thanks for the research Alcius, most appreciated all of you guys.
Btw Have you found an article about Albert Kerscher? I see different claims for him, I have 100+ but it can be everything.

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Post by alcius » 14 Aug 2022 09:14

I have no articles, but there are 107 kills on various sites, one is this.

Albert Kerscher was a highly decorated Oberfeldwebel in the Wehrmacht during World War II. A panzer ace from schwere Panzer Abteilung 502, he achieved his 100th kill in defending the Neuhauser Forest near Pillau, East Prussia in April 1945. On 22nd July 1944, 1st Lieutenant Otto Carius (see previous lot), with his company of eight Tigers advanced towards the village on Malinava in order to halt the Russian advance. Carius and Kerscher took a Kubelwagen in order to check if the village was already in Russian hands. They discovered that Malinava had already been taken by the enemy. Carius recognised that the Russian tanks in the village were only advance troops waiting for the main force to arrive. He decided to recapture the village before the arrival of more Russian tanks. Carius returned to his company for briefing and explained his plan to take the village. He decided to attack the village with only two Tigers because there was only one road leading to the village and it meant very risky business. Six Tigers remained in the reserve while the Tigers of Carius and Kerscher moved towards the village of Malinava. Speed was the essence of the plan to take the Russians by surprise and immobilise their tanks. When they were about to enter the village, they could see two T-34/85 tanks rotating their turrets in their direction. Immediately Kerscher, following Carius at about 150 metres, fired two shots in rapid succession, and destroyed the two enemy tanks. This was the first time that Carius had encountered one of the latest JS-1 heavy tanks. The silhouette of the new heavy Russian tank was somewhat similar to that of the Tiger II, and Carius got confused at first but after a little hesitation, ordered his crew to fire at once, and the JS-1 burst into flames. Afterwards they realised that the entire battle was over in about twenty minutes. In such a short time, the two Tigers of Carius and Kerscher had knocked out 17 Russian tanks including the new JS-1. The Russians were taken by surprise and their quick and accurate perception of the situation were the main factors that led the two Tigers to victory. He ended the war with a total score of 107 enemy tanks over the course of 97 armoured engagements.

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by pintere » 17 Aug 2022 15:47

alcius wrote:
03 Aug 2022 10:08
Another ace:

Oberleutnant Hans Walz - Pz.Abt.103 - 60 kills
Rurfront 1944/45: - Pag. 310
3. Infanterie-Division, 3. Infanterie-Division (mot.), 3. Panzergrenadier-Division Pasg. 368
Bei diesen Abwehrkämpfen schießt Lt. Walz , der mit 58 Panzern die höchste Abschuszahl buchen kann , zwei weitere Sherman ab

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Thanks for sharing Alcius! I’m still trying to put together the best possible account of Walz’s career and achievements. Are there any other accounts of his late war combat record?

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Post by alcius » 17 Aug 2022 16:26

Hello Pinter
The only thing I found is this:
Iron Cross - Issue 3 2020
https://it.scribd.com/document/44568244 ... sue-3-2020

During an engagement at Möderath, west of Cologne, on 3 March 1945, when three StuG of 1. Kompanie / Panzer-Abteilung 103, skillfully led by Oberleutnant Walz, destroyed 24 American armoured vehicles with only one loss

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Post by alcius » 17 Aug 2022 16:54

I forgot that I also have this report:
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Post by alcius » 27 Aug 2022 10:01

Another panzer ace

Obereutnant Arno Thiele - Zugführer, 4. Kompanie, I. Abteilung, Panzer-Regiment 29 - over 50 panzerkills

Oberleutnant Arno Thiele, der mit seinem einzigen Panzer mit einer 7,5-cm-Langrohrkanone alle Bunker geknackt und der bereits über 50 Panzerabschüsse erzielt hatte, fiel am Morgen dieses Tages durch Kopfschuß.

Knight's Cross for 10 kills
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German Cross in Gold for 39 panzerkills
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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 02 Sep 2022 14:52

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:
11 Aug 2022 06:55
Gentlemen,

Is there anymore new names of Panzer Commander Aces from the Waffen-SS that you care to share? So far these new names of these panzer aces that are mentioned are from the Heer.
Edward L. Hsiao
I have other SS-Aces.
Oberscharfuhrer Richard Rudolf – KC – SS-pzrgt 12 – 20 kills
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Unterscharfuhrer Ruper Gruber – GCG – SS-pzjgabt 3 – 26 kills, 30 guns
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Untersturmfuhrer Karl Jauss – GCG - SS-pzrgt 5 – 26 kills, 40 guns
https://www.wolfganghistorica.com/produ ... king-dkig/

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by pintere » 06 Sep 2022 16:53

alcius wrote:
27 Aug 2022 10:01
Another panzer ace

Obereutnant Arno Thiele - Zugführer, 4. Kompanie, I. Abteilung, Panzer-Regiment 29 - over 50 panzerkills

Oberleutnant Arno Thiele, der mit seinem einzigen Panzer mit einer 7,5-cm-Langrohrkanone alle Bunker geknackt und der bereits über 50 Panzerabschüsse erzielt hatte, fiel am Morgen dieses Tages durch Kopfschuß.

Knight's Cross for 10 kills
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German Cross in Gold for 39 panzerkills
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What’s the source for those two articles?

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Re: Panzer kills for 'Panzer Commander Aces' and 'Panzer Gunner Aces'

Post by alcius » 06 Sep 2022 17:05

Riesaer Tageblatt und Anzeiger : 28.09.1942
https://sachsen.digital/werkansicht/211 ... 954f3b5613

Riesaer Tageblatt und Anzeiger : 10.01.1942
https://sachsen.digital/werkansicht/211 ... d71d6b7d1f

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