missing first names in R906

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 22 Jul 2022 14:37

In 2 different Karteikarten of him I have Helmut and Hellmut for Maj. Maneval. The strange thing is that in Internet too there are Helmut and Hellmut. So which one is the 100% correct one ?

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 24 Jul 2022 18:51

Now a hard nut, a Müller. His K.Karte gives 3 info only :
1) "ehemal. E-Offz."
2) in "june 44" he was "Maj."(no date, no RDA)
3) "Fried.Tr.Teil : WBK. Tauberbischofsheim"
Who knows his first name ? Thanks
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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 24 Jul 2022 22:04

Müller, Walther Franz Hellmuth
*13.05.1899 in Neuenhagen, Niederbarnim

13.05.1918 Fähnrich
07.06.1918 Leutnant
15.09.1934 Hauptmann mit RDA vom 01.06.1934
01.04.1935 Hauptmann (E) mit RDA vom 01.06.1934
01.11.1936 Ordnungsnummer (169) erhalten
01.10.1940 Major (13)
01.05.1943 Ordnungsnummer (225) erhalten

23.03.1917 als Fahnenjunker in das Füsilier-Regiment Nr. 37 eingetreten
27.05.1918 verwundet
26.07.1918 gasvergiftet
04.08.1919 Reichswehr-Schützen-Regiment 8
01.10.1919 Reichswehr-Schützen-Regiment Magdeburg
20.10.1919 Reichswehr-Schützen-Regiment Quedlinburg
13.12.1919 Abwicklungsstelle des Füsilier-Regiments Nr. 37
31.03.1920 verabschiedet
15.09.1934 in das 12. Infanterie-Regiment angestellt
01.10.1934 im Infanterie-Regiment Halberstadt
31.03.1935 entlassen
01.04.1935 Adjutant der Reichswehr-Werbestelle Frankfurt/Oder
19.05.1938 als Adjutant zum WBK Spittal/Drau kommandiert
01.06.1938 dahin versetzt
11.07.1940 als Offizier beim Stabe zur Dienststelle für Eignungsuntersuchungen XIII kommandiert
01.09.1941 dahin versetzt
01.01.1943 Offizier beim Stabe der Annahmestelle für Offizierbewerber des Heeres XIII
01.07.1942 Führerreserve Wehrkreis XIII
20.03.1944 in das WBK Tauberbischofsheim versetzt (als Sachbearbeiter)
04.03.1945 zum Wehrkreis-Kommando IX versetzt (zur Verwendung als Führer des Festungs-Infanterie-Bataillon 1464)

At some point, I believe the Dienststellen für Eignungsuntersuchungen were renamed Personalprüfstellen, but I don't know when.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by hero. » 25 Jul 2022 10:32

Hello !

Many thanks for posting another excellent set of informations
from your database.

For me very interesting, that at the end of the war he became
Führer of Festungs-Infanterie-Bataillon 1464.
I think that is a very good example, how these type of units were formed!

Reagrding the question :
>>At some point, I believe the Dienststellen für Eignungsuntersuchungen were renamed Personalprüfstellen,
but I don't know when.<<

It was the other way round :
According to Absolon, Die Wehrmacht im Dritten Reich, Bd. V, S.82 :
>>Die "psychologischen Prüfstellen" wurden gem. Vfg. OKH vom 23.8.1939 (HVBl. B S. 266 Nr. 390)
in "Dienststellen für Eignungsuntersuchungen" umbenannt. <<

Best regards,
hero.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 25 Jul 2022 14:18

Many thanks Dave !
Thanks Hero
Rgds., Rossano

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 25 Jul 2022 20:27

Hello
In the Karteikarte of Hptm. Mungai in this roll there is the following data :
"7.44 Btl.Fhr. b. d. 362.ID"
"8.44 Schreiben Maj. Gruber an Otl. v. Albert"
Whilst I believe that I know who is this Gruber, I can´ t say the same for this Otl.
The only Otl. v. Albert I know of is a W.Fürs.Offz. and so I hardly believe that the one mentioned in this Karteikarte it´s him.
Was there in aug. 44 another Otl. v. Albert ? Maybe in the 362.ID ?

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 28 Jul 2022 21:08

Nothing above ?
Now I just found a very data-poor Karteikarte of a Preuss.
No rank, no RDA, no first name, no Fr.Tr.Teil, but only :
"3.45 Kdr. Fest.Inf.Btl.1466"
I wonder whether somebody from the poor data can recognize him and add the missing data.
Thanks + rgds.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 30 Jul 2022 19:24

A new officer
Maj. dR. (RDA. 1.2.43) Reichenbach
48 Jahre (counting back from 1943 or 1944 ?)
First name ? Eventual assignments in WW 2 ?

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 31 Jul 2022 09:00

Now a difficult Hptm. dR. Reiher (no other data available).
First name (and eventually some assignments in WW 2) ?

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 01 Aug 2022 19:45

Hello
In this roll I found a K.Karte of Otl. Schaar (no first name)
Hans (in his list) has Christof for him whilst Invenio has Christoph
What is absolutely true ? Pls. official doc. evidence only.
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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 02 Aug 2022 15:45

What about Maj. d.R. Scherber geb. 1890 aus WK.XIII in this roll (and another Maj. d.R. Loos in another roll, but no more data) ? Are their first names (and possibly some of their assignments in WW 2) known ? Thanks
Oops, I forgot another Maj. d.R., Schiebel, in this roll (no other data). First name etc. ?

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 02 Aug 2022 18:52

Probably Fritz Scherber, *02.08.1890 in Fürth in Mittelfranken. He was a Leutnant der Reserve in the 3. bayerische Infanterie-Regiment in World War I and a Lehrer in Rittersbach bei Georgensgmünd. Both Fürth and Rittersbach were in Wehrkreis XIII.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 02 Aug 2022 21:19

Glad to read You again dear Dave. Thanks

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 03 Aug 2022 17:01

I got a new one, Otl.(1.4.42) Schnaars (Fr.Tr.Teil: Tr.Üb.Pl. Münsingen)
It must be a difficult one because I found him in many sources and lists but all without first name. Who knows/has it ? Thanks

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 03 Aug 2022 19:22

The Bundesarchiv has a file for an OTL Heinrich Schnaars, *20.3.1901. That's likely your man.

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