missing first names in R906

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missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 22 Jun 2022 13:09

Hello gentlemen
I am trying WITH YOUR HELP to give first names to all officers in roll T78 R906 (Karteikarten Infanterie) where missing :

Bernhardt Maj. 1.10.40 Otl. 1.5.44
Barnert Otl. 1.9.42
Abele aus IR.125 Hptm. 1.5.43
Armbruster aus IR.55 Hptm. 1.6.43
Becher Hptm. dR. (no RDA.), 11.43 - 3.44 Btl.Fü. i. d. 260.ID
Becker Hptm. dR. (no RDA.), mid 44 in the 367.ID
Berner aus IR.37 Hptm. 1.2.44 (67a)

Many others will follow
Many thanks in advance to all

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 22 Jun 2022 16:25

Bernhardt, Adam, *21.04.1896 in Mainz-Bischofsheim
03.11.1915-28.01.1919 i.d. preuß. Armee (IR 117, RIR 118), 27.08.1917 Lt.d.R.; 01.01.38 Hauptmann (E)

Barnert, Adolf Wenzel, *28.08.1895 in Wien
18.08.1915 aus der Theresianische Militärakademie als Leutnant dem IR 23 überwiesen, 01.05.1917 OLt., 31.08.1920 Übertritt in den Finanzdienst (01.09.1920-10.11.1938 Steuerbemessungsbeamter), 25.02.1922 Titel als Hauptmann, 01.11.1938 Hptm.z.V., 01.06.1939 m.W.v. 01.03.1939 Hptm. mit RDA vom 01.04.1934 (872b), 01.07.1940 (91) Major, 01.11.1941 z.d. aktiv. Tr.Offz. (RDA 01.07.1940 (87)), 01.09.1942 (15) Oberstleutnant; 01.11.1938-30.11.1941 WFVA Würzburg (WFO Schweinfurt), 01.12.1941-30.06.1942 WFVA Würzburg (WFO Bamberg), 01.07.1942 Sachbearb. b. WFVA Nürnberg, 15.10.1943 z. Wehrm.Bfh. Ukraine kdrt., 01.04.1944 WFVA Würzburg (WFO Bamberg).

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 23 Jun 2022 09:06

Many thanks Dave, I really appreciate Your precious contributes
I hope somebody else too will joyn with more first names.....

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 24 Jun 2022 17:57

Hello, no more ?
In the meantime I have found 2 more (2 Karteikarten with 2 Bucher)

1) a Hptm. RDA. 1.11.43 (214) born 6.12.16 (without first name)
In the DAL 5.44 there is indeed such a Hptm BUT with different RDA number (150).
I believe that it is the same officer but why 2 different RDA numbers ?

2) a Maj.(o. RDA.) being „8.44 : z. Z. Kdr. Jäg.Btl. 6“. First name ? When Maj. ?
By the way, one more question regarding this Btl.,
end 42 was Hptm. Rheinheimer Btls.Fhr., Helmut ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 25 Jun 2022 18:31

Pls. push

I just found a new one whose short Karteikarte only reads :
"Otl.(o. RDA) Büll 5.44 z. Btl.Fü.Lehrg. Angers kdrt."
I believe that it´s the Otl. S (RDA. 1.7.43, first name ?
One more question, was that a selbständ. Infanterie-Lehrg. ?
What´s the difference between this and the other Btl.Fü.Lehrgänge in the Infanterie- and Btl.u.Abt.Fü.Schulen ?
In Angers there was a Pionierschule but I believe that it has nothing to do with the Btl.Fü.Lehrg. above. Thanks

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 25 Jun 2022 21:03

Büll, Carl Christian Max, *22.12.1895 in Hannover

01.09.1939-03.11.1940 Sachbearbeiter u. Adjutant, WBK Rendsburg
04.11.1940-01.11.1942 Leiter, WMA Itzehoe
02.11.1942-?? Sachbearbeiter u. stellv. Gruppenleiter II, WEI Schleswig-Holstein

There is nothing in his Personalakte after his March 1944 Beurteilung, so nothing about this Lehrgang or any bataillon command. He had no service in the field in World War II up to this point. His 1944 Beurteilung is glowing, so maybe someone thought he deserved a chance to lead troops.
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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 25 Jun 2022 22:06

Many thanks Dave !

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 26 Jun 2022 13:21

I just found a new one whose short Karteikarte only reads :
"Maj.(o. RDA) Buttler (aus WBK. Schrottersburg)", with same text as above :
"5.44 z. Btl.Fü.Lehrg. Angers kdrt.". First name ? Any other assignments ? Thanks

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 26 Jun 2022 16:54

I would assume that this is Horst Buttler, *20.03.1898 in Demmin. He has a Personalakte in Freiburg which lists him as a Major, according to the Bundesarchiv. He was a Leutnant der Reserve in World War I, but I do not have him in my records for some reason.

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio ... 1515a63a6/

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 26 Jun 2022 17:29

Thanks Dave !
The officers with missing first names are endless (bad for me.....), especially the lower ranks (Ltn. to Hptm.)
Just minutes ago in this same roll I found 2 more :
Hptm.(1.6.43 (110a)) Christel (aus IR.61), and
Hptm. dR.(o. RDA.) Daage
I understand that You too (as well as many others) have difficulties with low ranks (first names, DLB, etc.), but You are the best source for my researches .........Thanks for all

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 26 Jun 2022 22:08

Apart Christel and Daage above, next 2 are the last new ones for today
This time I found 2 officers in the same Karteikarte (of this roll)
1) A Hptm. dR.(1.4.42) Dieckhof (from another source as Dickhoff) aus WBK. Stolp
So, Dieckhof or Dickhoff (or maybe Dieckhoff) correct ?
2) A Maj. dR.(o. RDA) Dorenwendt, first name ?
Both officers were engaged in jan.44 in Btlnen. unter dem Fest.Inf.Rgt.St.964. So,which Fest.Inf.Btlne. were in jan. 44 diesem Rgt. unterstellt ? Did they have later further assignments ? Thanks in adv. for all

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 27 Jun 2022 04:35

According to the Bundesarchiv database, there is a file in Freiburg for a Major Ulrich Dieckhoff, *27.05.1906. That may be your man.

For a Christel in the rank of Hauptmann, there are only two reserve officers. One was Luftwaffe and the other was killed in 1942, so neither are your man.
- Hauptmann d.R.z.V. Kurt Christel, *17.02.1889 in Naumburg/Saale, gef. 03.03.1942
- Major d.R. d. Luftwaffe Robert Christel, *18.08.1894 in Gießen, †10.08.1962

I did not find anything for a Daage or Dorenwendt.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 28 Jun 2022 10:13

Thanks Dave, but is "Your" Maj. Dieckhoff an akt. or Res. Offz. ? Inf. or Art. ? Because "mine" was Inf. Hptm. d.R.(1.4.42), and uncertain whether Dieckhof or Dickhoff or Dieckhoff, whilst in DAL 5.44 there is an akt. Art.Maj.(1.1.42) Dieckhoff and probably "Your Ulrich" is just this latter one.....

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Dave Danner » 28 Jun 2022 12:33

The file just says Major. If there was a different active officer, then it's likely him.

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Re: missing first names in R906

Post by Rossano » 29 Jun 2022 17:52

Hello all
1) I am confused. In this roll (as well as in R898) Maj. Eisl´s first name in his K.Karten is Anton (Jäg.), whilst in DAL (and in other sources) is Alois. If Alois correct, why then Anton ?
There are also 2 different dates of his promotion to Maj.(1.2.44 and 1.9.44, maybe m.W. 1.9 + RDA. 1.2 ?
2) Has somebody the first name of Hptm.(1.7.42) Dula (aus IR.134) ?
Thanks + rgds.

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