Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Mannheim » 06 Aug 2022 22:31

It's not impossible that the painter produced multiple copies, Sassoferato - although he painted devotional subjects - was known for painting multiple copies and these artists would have to work to the market.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 07 Aug 2022 00:23

Max wrote:
06 Aug 2022 14:47
Geoff Walden wrote:
03 Aug 2022 01:48


The Tintoretto may have been this one, which was also in the Great Hall (that is, I believe this was by Tintoretto - it is very similar to identified works of his).


I think it unlikely that it is a Tintoretto but rather a copy by a student of Canaletto or Bellotto
Check for the minor differences between the Hitler catalog photo and the two master works


https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/103RJP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaletto ... 6_1992.jpg
Thanks, Max, that seems to be it for sure.
About the “Adam and Eve,” the version shown in the Hitler catalog seem identical to the color version posted, in spite of the convoluted history. But it could have been another copy, I suppose. There was more than one copy of Feuerbach’s “Nana,” which appeared in various places in the Berghof.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Max » 07 Aug 2022 00:28

Hans1906 wrote:
06 Aug 2022 15:31
I don't see anything comparable,

Hans
Sorry Hans
The correct image is now posted for comparison.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Mannheim » 08 Aug 2022 03:55

Great thread! I've always wondered what happened to Hitler's artworks. Anyone know what happened to the tapestries?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 08 Aug 2022 12:16

Before this thread gets too side tracked by artworks at the Berghof, there was a thread devoted to the subject several years ago viewtopic.php?f=44&t=144844&hilit=berghof+art

It was an immensely interesting thread as I remember, but, sadly, many of the linked images nolonger exist.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Annelie » 08 Aug 2022 13:40

Yes!

That was an very interesting thread - wish this topic could continue there?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 08 Aug 2022 14:28

Annelie wrote:
08 Aug 2022 13:40
Yes!

That was an very interesting thread - wish this topic could continue there?
Not necessarily on my account. Surely the powers that be should field that one. I just think it's a shame to rehash here what has already been explored elsewhere. If only the missing images in the other thread could be recovered or replaced with more permanent examples.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 15 Aug 2022 17:20

Just picked up my reading for the week, looks really interesting: Despina Stratigakos, Hitler at Home (Yale Univ. Press, 2015).

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Duane Becker » 15 Aug 2022 21:04

Biber, Despina Stratigakos' Hitler at Home is a great book! The sections on the Berghof are very informative.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 15 Aug 2022 22:48

Duane Becker wrote:
15 Aug 2022 21:04
Biber, Despina Stratigakos' Hitler at Home is a great book! The sections on the Berghof are very informative.
Yes it looks like it is going to be a great read. Frankly, I'm surprised i haven't encountered this book before now. I already know quite a bit about the Berghof thanks to sources like this thread and Geoff's site, but I'm hoping to learn more. Can't wait to get started!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Mike Tal » 21 Sep 2022 13:15

Interesting pictures of construction works on Berghof when it was transformed from Haus Wachenfeld can be seen here: https://www.alexautographs.com/auction- ... 0E14D1C9CE. Auctioned and sold for hefty (and to me ridiculous) USD 5000 ...

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Br. James » 21 Sep 2022 14:47

Yes, these are wonderful photos -- they belong in a comprehensive book on the subject of transforming Haus Wachenfeld into The Berghof!
But that price? Way beyond my poor wallet!
Thanks for sharing them with us, Mike.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 22 Sep 2022 17:53

Thanks from me as well, Mike. I wonder if there have been other sets of these. Some I have seen before (some have been used before on this forum), but I hadn’t seen the two interesting views of the Türken before. Another good view is the Gästehaus Hoher Göll before Bormann had it converted to his Partei office building.
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