Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

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Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Cantankerous » 20 Feb 2022 02:54

In his speech declaring war on the US, Hitler described the US as "half Judaized, and the other half Negrified" while claiming that any decent people in the US were of German origin. Why was Hitler ignorant of the fact that the United States was founded by men of English descent (never mind that the Hessians in the colonies were of German origin)?

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by daveshoup2MD » 20 Feb 2022 04:31

Cantankerous wrote:
20 Feb 2022 02:54
In his speech declaring war on the US, Hitler described the US as "half Judaized, and the other half Negrified" while claiming that any decent people in the US were of German origin. Why was Hitler ignorant of the fact that the United States was founded by men of English descent (never mind that the Hessians in the colonies were of German origin)?
Because he was an ignorant narcissist with a high school education?

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Cult Icon » 20 Feb 2022 04:48

In Nazi propaganda they depict the US as being financially dominated by the Jews (the Jews as the puppet masters of FDR, mega-financiers, etc etc.) and a cultural wasteland due to American capitalism, Jews, and the Blacks. Hitler/Nazis considered American culture to be garbage. If you search for these images, you will find them.

The Nazis were not a fan of unfettered/purely for profit capitalism as they considered the product of this production to be directionless and degenerate (and the Jew as reaping the lion's share of the rewards) without national socialism providing economic leadership.

Blacks I am not so aware of, "Jazz" was considered degenerate music by the Nazis.

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Post by Cantankerous » 20 Feb 2022 05:01

daveshoup2MD wrote:
20 Feb 2022 04:31
Cantankerous wrote:
20 Feb 2022 02:54
In his speech declaring war on the US, Hitler described the US as "half Judaized, and the other half Negrified" while claiming that any decent people in the US were of German origin. Why was Hitler ignorant of the fact that the United States was founded by men of English descent (never mind that the Hessians in the colonies were of German origin)?
Because he was an ignorant narcissist with a high school education?
That's a possibility, because Hitler's best subject at school was art (before he dropped out in 1905), and it is unclear if he ever studied US history in school. The tendency by Hitler and the Nazis to paint the US as a cultural wasteland due to American capitalism, Jews, and the Blacks almost reminds me of Fidel Castro brainwashing schoolchildren to vilify America as racist without appreciating the fact that African Americans excelled in music and literature during the 1920s Harlem Renaissance. Given that the first American Jews were Sephardic Jews who arrived in New Amsterdam in 1650, Hitler and Goebbels did not appreciate the fact that Jews came to the colonies decades after the colony of Jamestown was founded.

The Führer also overlooked the fact that there were Asian Americans living along the west coast of the US and that Chinese and Japanese immigrants came to the US in the 1800s and early 1900s, which further undercut Hitler's narrative of the US as "half Judaized, and the other half Negrified".
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Post by daveshoup2MD » 20 Feb 2022 05:16

Cantankerous wrote:
20 Feb 2022 05:01
daveshoup2MD wrote:
20 Feb 2022 04:31
Cantankerous wrote:
20 Feb 2022 02:54
In his speech declaring war on the US, Hitler described the US as "half Judaized, and the other half Negrified" while claiming that any decent people in the US were of German origin. Why was Hitler ignorant of the fact that the United States was founded by men of English descent (never mind that the Hessians in the colonies were of German origin)?
Because he was an ignorant narcissist with a high school education?
That's a possibility, because Hitler's best subject at school was art (before he dropped out in 1905), and it is unclear if he ever studied US history in school. The tendency by Hitler and the Nazis to paint the US as a cultural wasteland due to American capitalism, Jews, and the Blacks almost reminds me of Fidel Castro brainwashing schoolchildren to vilify America as racist without appreciating the fact that African Americans excelled in music and literature during the 1920s Harlem Renaissance. Given that the first American Jews were Sephardic Jews who arrived in New Amsterdam in 1650, Hitler and Goebbels did not appreciate the fact that Jews came to the colonies decades after the colony of Jamestown was founded.
Setting aside many other differences, FDR and WSC were both well-educated men with vastly higher levels of responsibility during WW I and afterwards then Hitler had ever come close to...

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Cult Icon » 20 Feb 2022 13:30

The Nazis seemed to be not too upset or aware that politics, Wall Street and big business was dominated by WASPs, not Jews. It's like they switched the two groups.

Jews were actually discriminated against during those times in the top tier corporate world and in high finance (so much that they had to make their own Jewish firms, that played second fiddle).

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by wooley12 » 20 Feb 2022 16:57

IMHO, Hitler was making a political statement to show the enemy as lower humans and the enemy of the his dream German Aryan Germany. His had no need to present any actual facts and would be unhelpful.

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by George L Gregory » 22 Feb 2022 18:27

He wasn’t referring to the founders of America.

He was referring to the influx of black people in America and his warped idea that Jewish people ruled America because they ran the banks, etc.

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Topspeed » 24 Feb 2022 13:10

Hitler was a trouble starter.

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Cantankerous » 24 Feb 2022 18:04

Topspeed wrote:
24 Feb 2022 13:10
Hitler was a trouble starter.
Did Hitler ever summon his diplomatic corps to convince the Japanese government that the US was nothing but a "half-Judaized, half-Negrified" society despite the fact that immigrants from East Asia lived along the west coast of the United States?

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Hallodri » 26 Feb 2022 09:49

The quote is from his table talk of 7 January 1942, transcribed by Heinrich Heim for Martin Bormann ("Bormann-Vermerke"). I tried to translate it faithfully:
Nonetheless, I prefer an Englishman a thousand times to an American. We have no inner relationships with the Japanese. They are too foreign to us in culture and way of life. But I have a hatred and aversion of the deepest kind against Americanism. Every European state is closer to me. America in its whole mental attitude is a half Jewified and Negrified society. How can one assume that this state will last when 80 percent of the income is taxed away, a country in which everything is built only on the dollar? In this respect, I still consider the British state more capable.
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Trotzdem ist mir ein Engländer tausendmal lieber als ein Amerikaner. Zu den Japanern haben wir keine inneren Beziehungen. Sie sind uns in Kultur und Lebensform zu fremd. Einen Haß und eine Abneigung tiefster Art aber habe ich gegen den Amerikanismus. Jeder europäische Staat steht einem näher. Amerika ist in seiner ganzen geistigen Haltung eine halb verjudete und vernegerte Gesellschaft. Wie will man annehmen, daß dieser Staat hält, wenn 80 Prozent des Einkommens weggesteuert werden, ein Land, in dem alles nur auf den Dollar aufgebaut ist? Da halte ich an sich den britischen Staat noch für fähiger.
Source: Heinrich Heim and Werner Jochmann (ed.), Adolf Hitler: Monologe im Führer-Hauptquartier, 1941–1944 (Hamburg: Knaus, 1980), 184.

In his declaration of war, he said something similar, which I would translate as follows:
Therefore also, it was not England who cultivated the [European] continent, but splinters of Germanic peoplehood of our continent moved as Anglo-Saxons and Normans to this island and enabled it with a development that is certainly unique. In the same way, it was not America who discovered Europe, but the other way around. And all that America has not drawn from Europe may well appear worthy of admiration to a Jewified mixed race, but Europe sees in it only a sign of the decay in art and cultural way of life, the legacy of Jewish or Negrified blood admixture.
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Es hat deshalb auch nicht England den Kontinent kultiviert, sondern Splitter germanischen Volkstums unseres Kontinents sind als Angelsachsen und Normannen auf diese Insel gezogen und haben ihr eine Entwicklung ermöglicht, die sicher einmalig ist. Ebenso hat nicht Amerika Europa entdeckt, sondern umgekehrt. Und all das, was Amerika nicht aus Europa bezogen hat, mag wohl einer verjudeten Mischrasse als bewunderungswürdig erscheinen, Europa aber sieht darin nur ein Zeichen des Verfalls in Kunst und kultureller Lebenshaltung, das Erbe jüdischen oder vernegerten Bluteinschlags.
Source text: http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaste ... .12.11.htm
Audio: https://archive.org/details/wb4l7gsas7qk starting at 17:56

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Cantankerous » 13 May 2022 02:25

If Hitler had known that slave ship captains had brought enslaved Africans into British colonies in eastern North America because they considered blacks barbarous, then it would have been harder for him to call US society "half-Judaized" , "half-Negrified".

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Topspeed » 13 May 2022 09:58

Cantankerous wrote:
24 Feb 2022 18:04
Topspeed wrote:
24 Feb 2022 13:10
Hitler was a trouble starter.
Did Hitler ever summon his diplomatic corps to convince the Japanese government that the US was nothing but a "half-Judaized, half-Negrified" society despite the fact that immigrants from East Asia lived along the west coast of the United States?

I think Hitler was a man with trauma. He wanted to revenge and get Poland and attack his his main ideological enemy USSR. US helped the enemies of his country in WW I. He thus saw them as his enemies as well.

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 16 May 2022 06:21

On 16th of March 1921 or so Hitler also named that Russians are Arians and put them in one place with Germans and other nations he was mentioning in his speech. In the end of 1930s he said that Russians were intermixed after Stalin's deportations and are of lower race. There's no need to pay attention to what psychos are saying.

Were there any discussions about making German language as a state language before war because there were too many Germans migrants in USA?

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Re: Why did Hitler call US society half-Judaized and half-Negrified despite the US having been founded by Englishmen?

Post by ljadw » 16 May 2022 08:16

The opinions of Hitler about the USA were shared by a lot of people in Europe and are still shared by a lot of people in Europe : France, Germany, Britain, Eastern Europe,...
It is the same for his opinions about the Russians .

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