Reichskanzlei Thread

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Max » 25 Jan 2023 06:46

From Geoff Walden's site
The Third Reich government adopted the eagle as a national symbol (Hoheitszeichen), in common with previous German governments and several other European countries. Originally, the design was to show the eagle's head facing to its right when used as a national symbol, and to its left when used as a Nazi Party symbol, but this convention was not always followed. The eagle's claws were to grasp a wreath of oak leaves surrounding a swastika.
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Max » 25 Jan 2023 07:17

The above still does not answer the question; why, and when the change was made.
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Max » 25 Jan 2023 10:30

It appears that there were two very similar portals on Voss Str

No 4 Voss Str
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The eagle looks to its left [our right]

No 6 Voss Str
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The eagle looks to its right [our left]
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This might also explain why there two different eagles.
They are looking towards each other
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by CraigM » 25 Jan 2023 13:09

Max wrote:
25 Jan 2023 10:30
It appears that there were two very similar portals on Voss Str
I think you might have nailed it Max. I'm surprised that it isn't more widely known that there were two similar entrances, given all that's been discussed in the huge number of posts (2523) in this thread! How could we not know this? 8O It's plain to see in some of the photographs and in the floor plan!

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by sobel » 25 Jan 2023 13:34

I think the confusion emanates from the lifesize model with an "invented" eagle, i knew there were 2 entrances on voss strasse and assumed both eagles to be identical, it was the design of the eagles which differred in the images that got me

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Hans1906 » 25 Jan 2023 13:34

The german article about the "Reichsadler" anwers ALL questions, please pay attention to the section "Reichsadler in der Zeit des Nationalsozialismus"

Reichsadler: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler

Unfortunately, I personally don't understand why one has to dwell on this at all, especially in this forum...


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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Max » 25 Jan 2023 15:21

sobel wrote:
25 Jan 2023 13:34
I think the confusion emanates from the lifesize model with an "invented" eagle, i knew there were 2 entrances on voss strasse and assumed both eagles to be identical, it was the design of the eagles which differred in the images that got me
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Hi all just a quick question, why is the eagle iver the entrance in voss strasse different in the two images, was it changed?
I took you to mean the difference in the direction of the eagle heads.
The eagles at the two entrances are not identical; their heads point in different directions. Did you know that?
I see now that the differences you referred to were other than the heads.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Max » 25 Jan 2023 15:23

CraigM wrote:
25 Jan 2023 13:09
Max wrote:
25 Jan 2023 10:30
It appears that there were two very similar portals on Voss Str
I think you might have nailed it Max. I'm surprised that it isn't more widely known that there were two similar entrances, given all that's been discussed in the huge number of posts (2523) in this thread! How could we not know this? 8O It's plain to see in some of the photographs and in the floor plan!
There was some discussion along these lines about 15 years ago, but it's a bit hard to follow due to so mant photo being no longer available.
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Mannheim » 25 Jan 2023 23:15

The heads of the eagles above both entrances faced each other. If you were standing on the other side of Voss-Strasse and looking at the NRK, the one at the Wilhelmstrasse end faced left and the one at the Hermann-Goring-Strasse end faced right. As for full-scale modelling, Hitler/Speer followed the practice from time to time, notably with the Nuremberg Kongresshalle. Scroll down on Geoff's site here: http://www.thirdreichruins.com/nuernberg3.htm
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by CraigM » 26 Jan 2023 11:32

Mannheim wrote:
25 Jan 2023 23:15
As for full-scale modelling, Hitler/Speer followed the practice from time to time, notably with the Nuremberg Kongresshalle.
Here's another one, also from Geoff's site: they built a full-scale model of stadium seating for the Deutsche Stadion, 52 km east of Nuremberg. I've actually been there. It's fascinating. Not for the faint-hearted. Punch "Der Stadionberg bei Oberklausen" into Google Maps to find it. Check out satellite view too. Info and period photos at http://www.thirdreichruins.com/misc_sit ... adionmodel

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by sobel » 30 Jan 2023 00:21

Looking through old posts in ths thread, came across this image, full scale model?!
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Post by sobel » 30 Jan 2023 00:23

Looking through old posts in ths thread, came across this image, full scale model?! With edtimated eagle?
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Mannheim » 07 Apr 2023 04:06

I have recently been gifted this original photo taken inside the New Reich Chancellery. I'm guessing it shows the west wall of the Great Reception Hall. Anyone disagree?
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Br. James » 07 Apr 2023 19:42

Yes, it looks like the decor of that room. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Christoph Neubauer » 17 May 2023 06:52

My first 3D-Tour is online: “The Berlin government district on one day in summer of 1939” (Wilhelmplatz/Wilhelmstrasse/Vossstrasse)

Check this link for further information https://atelier-neubauer.de/en/3d-touren/

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