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Unknown army

Post by tippette » 13 Nov 2021 23:01

Good evening,
I've found a roll where a decoration cerimony is held. I can see german soldiers and soldiers forma nother country I cannot identify.
Could you help me?
Thank you
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Re: Unknown army

Post by tippette » 13 Nov 2021 23:07

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Re: Unknown army

Post by Hans1906 » 13 Nov 2021 23:08

Bulgarian M36 steel helmet

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_M36_helmet

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Re: Unknown army

Post by von thoma » 14 Nov 2021 00:08

Are Romanian soldiers with Dutch helmets ( Netherlands M34/M39 ) in use.
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Post by Hans1906 » 14 Nov 2021 00:54

Are Romanian soldiers with Dutch helmets ( Netherlands M34/M39 ) in use.
They were Bulgarian steel helmets, nothing has been mentioned about Romania so far.

But there is no need to argue about it, many of the steel helmets of that time looked very similar...

Link: HELMETS AND BODY ARMOR IN MODERN WARFARE (pdf file)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 1oa96SIZhP

Download is about 32+ megabyte.

This work answers many questions, most of which have remained until without answers.


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Re: Unknown army

Post by GregSingh » 14 Nov 2021 03:58

Looks like Romanian Army to me.
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Re: Unknown army

Post by von thoma » 14 Nov 2021 05:06

Marshal Ion Antonescu is pictured below...

Antonescu rewards Romanian soldiers
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Post by von thoma » 14 Nov 2021 05:20

They were Bulgarian steel helmets, nothing has been mentioned about Romania so far.

But there is no need to argue about it, many of the steel helmets of that time looked very similar...
Romania would order 628,000 M34s from the Dutch for use in its army and name it the M39.

Netherlands M34; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_M34

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Re: Unknown army

Post by Knouterer » 14 Nov 2021 08:43

Clearly Romanians, armed with the Czech Vz/24 rifle which was their standard rifle. Admittedly the Bulgarians received some too later in the war, but their standard rifle was the Mannlicher 1895 (in various versions), supplemented by Mosin-Nagants.
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Post by VJK » 14 Nov 2021 12:08

Screenshot 2021-11-13 225851b.png clearly shows Romanian Marshal Ion Antonescu.

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Re: Unknown army

Post by nuyt » 15 Nov 2021 10:06

200% Romanians

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Re: Unknown army

Post by gebhk » 15 Nov 2021 16:39

Hi Hans

Thanks for the fascinating book. It is as much useful for its history of armour as anything else. However I am not sure how it can help here, given that when the book was published (1920) the two helmets in question, Dutch and Bulgarian, did not yet exist (introduced 1934 and 1936 respectively).

I'm afraid I am with the majority view here. They are clearly Romanians - even without all the other supporting evidence, the Bulgarian M36 looks very different.

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Re: Unknown army

Post by tippette » 15 Nov 2021 20:16

GregSingh wrote:
14 Nov 2021 03:58
Looks like Romanian Army to me.
Where and when was this photo taken?
Here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuZAXJAszqc&t=80s

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