A Bridge To Far

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 25 Aug 2002 04:40

Hello all,

Just watching the old movie again. This is the first time since I was a kid though. : (

But the weapons, uniforms, allied tanks, (great line up of Fireflys), even the Thunderbolts are great, that is if they are Thunderbolts.

But what the heck did the movies makers use for the German SS Recon attack that failed.
I mean the fake SdKfz 251's and the supposed assualt gun. The got the armor panels and such in the basic form but I cannot make out the actaual vehicle.

Thanks

Logan Hartke · Post by **Logan Hartke** » 25 Aug 2002 04:53

About the only "real" stuff in the armor category is the British stuff. The C-47s are real, but the Thunderbolts aren't real (they're trainers), and that "Panther" isn't a Panther. It's been a few years since I've seen it, so I can't help you with the SS recon stuff; I'll have to watch it again.

Logan Hartke

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 25 Aug 2002 05:12

Ok now.

This is the secound time today someone has taken wrong.

The German armor is all fake. I didnot say that it was. The closest they come to the German vechicles is a very slim chance at a Sd Kfz 232 and a Sd Kfz 10. They may also have a 5 cm PaK along with a 7.5 cm PaK.

They do have a nice collection of German machine guns and personal arms as well.

Logan Hartke · Post by **Logan Hartke** » 25 Aug 2002 05:22

No, I didn't think that you thought all of the German armor was real, otherwise you wouldn't have asked what it was. You were observant enough to notice the armor panels were wrong, so you obviously wouldn't have thought they were real. I was just saying from the last time that I watched the movie that the only vehicle that I recognized to be actual German other that staff cars and trucks was that large halftrack in the aerial photo. It's been a while since I've seen it, but that's just what I recall. Sorry you misunderstood me.

Logan Hartke

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 25 Aug 2002 05:40

I guess I am sorry for jumping also.
But these people who think that you don't know what the BW and ZW series meant should really not jump in feet first.

Overall it is probably the best collection of allied war material put into one film. The lines of tanks are something but in one shot you can see they lined up a few shermans then had modern armor in front. As the coloum fired up the smoke hides the modern armor. Good trick.

Now to think with the special effects and modelling, there could be one heck of good movie put together now.

Sorry Logan

Logan Hartke · Post by **Logan Hartke** » 25 Aug 2002 06:36

No problem. One of my favorite videos for military equipment is Sahara with Humphrey Bogart. It is the only movie that I've ever seen with M3 Lee tanks (it was made during the war). The German plane is really a P-51 and the German vehicles are really American, but atleast everything is WWII-period. Also, the small arms are accurate. The Americans have Thompsons and the Brits have that neat old Vickers that A Bridge Too Far should've tried to get a hold of. The movie is one of my favorites. Does anyone know of any other movies with an M3 Lee/Grant?

Logan Hartke

Smert-Fashistam · Post by **Smert-Fashistam** » 25 Aug 2002 15:48

yeah, in Bridge too far only british eqipment looks genuine, the sherman tanks in poarticular, while germans look believable, but armours and soldier uniforms are not accurate

Benoit Douville · Post by **Benoit Douville** » 25 Aug 2002 18:20

I also watch the film last night on the history channel for the 10th time

and still enjoy it. Al the best actors are on this film.

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 25 Aug 2002 18:22

Got to agree the line up of actors is great.
But I would still like to know what was used in place of SdKfz 251's.

Grant

Ogorek · Post by **Ogorek** » 26 Aug 2002 19:47

Logan.....
Another vintage flick with the M-3 Lee/Grant in it is FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO at its beginning.
Also 1941 has a Lee in it skippered by Dan Ackroyd, and it was named "LULUBELLE"

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 26 Aug 2002 22:40

I seen an old black and white that was about some soldiers in the desert with a Grant. The tank was quite abit in the film but it was not a shooting film, more of one based on a unit lost or something like that.

HJ Division Grenadier · Post by **HJ Division Grenadier** » 27 Aug 2002 20:47

One of my favourites is A Bridge too Far.
I know the German tank is really an American one etc, but its still good and the story is correct.
But one film that springs to mind is Battle of the Bulge.
I dont mind the film as a rule, but I cringe every time i see a 'German' tank.
And in some parts, even remote control ones, good grief!
Now this is one hell of a Hollywood glam film

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 27 Aug 2002 21:14

I havent seen the Battle of Bulge what year was it made?
My idea on movies was that they would be able to reproduce large battles like never before with the special effects take a look at what the models did in Star Wars.

HJ Division Grenadier · Post by **HJ Division Grenadier** » 27 Aug 2002 21:21

Battle of the Bulge was made sometime in the mid sixties as far as I can remember, you must know it.
Its got a shitload of 'big' actors from that time, Telly Savalas, Henry Fonda etc etc.
If you see the tanks in this film, you will see what I mean!
Pretty poor effort for such a blockbuster film I think.
But then again its made for the general public who know sweet fa about German armour or history in general.

admfisher · Post by **admfisher** » 27 Aug 2002 23:58

"But then again its made for the general public who know sweet fa about German armour or history in general."

Just a total pity the ignorance of things such as history. But then if you dont learn form it you will repeat it.

I was just watching the news and now talk of war with Saddam again. I guess we will never learn.

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