Worst War Movies?

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Here a movie that kind of the irish Version of "The North star" "The Wind That Shakes the Barley" superifically its about the after math of the Irish War of Independnce of 1919-1922 and the Beginning of the Irish Civil War of 1922-1923 [lasted 10 months] and about how one brother is so fanatic for one [32 county} Ireland that he doesnt just disagree with his Pro-treaty brother he hates him for not becoming a 1916 martyr sacrafice.... what sets this movie apart is the open marxist-communist class rehoric class struggle...that the irish rebels shout to the British Empire.....In fact the only thing missing is the about to be executed rebel proudly proclaiming "The International".... ...............

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1999 The Three Kings about three US Soldiers in Iraq who go off to find a gold treasure.....sounds familiaer say Kelly's Heros....HA HA

[LineDoggie]

How about U-571? is it true they deviated from fact because it was the Royal Navy that captured an Enigma machune not the US?
The US nacy did capture a Uboat U-505....

Since it was actually the POLES who broke enigma it's got to be galling them that the British take credit all the time, and Hollywood steals it from the thieves of the UK.

[LineDoggie]

And then of Course is one of the top Worst War/Propaganda movies of all time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_to_the_Marines

A good runner up was Von Ryans Express.....just cheesy

So propagandais is it it makes other average cliched propaganda Films Look GOOD!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_Island_(film)

ANd then was this one movie about a B-17 which flew from California..that arrives at Pearl Harbor after 7 December 1941 and then contiues alone on its merry way to the Phillippines.....(Sorry cant remember name)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannic_(film)
Just read the summary the ship was sunk by a german mine..not german spy......

So all crap just like "Come and See" was?

[LineDoggie]

speaking on bad Movies there was a black/white Korean war movie about a patrol of US Army who have to fight there way back to friendly lines..in comic relief moment..Comedian Bob Newhart stars as a supply clerk who is delivering a case of typretitters when he gets lost...and drives into the squad....

Slow down a bit and get your details correct. your Bob Newhart movie is "Hell is for Heroes" with Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Fess Parker and is set in WW2 NOT Korea.

They also are not fighting there way back to American lines since they are already INSIDE American lines. the Squad is left in place as a diversion while the rest of the unit goes off on another mission

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUYMAD3 ... l=ladianoh

Most of these films you hate were never intended to be documentaries on ww2 but ENTERTAINMENT.

Accurate movies aren't necessarily good movies

"Theirs is the Glory" about Arnhem has great battles sequences and REAL German Armor (Tiger I, Panthers and German variant flammpanzer Char 2Bis) and filmed onsite but the dialogue so wooden it could float like a canoe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKzzEss ... erBiermann

[LineDoggie]

Kirk Douglas DID play Patton

"Is Paris burning?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8oUSUN ... ordChannel

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The story of the one B-17 is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_(film)
A good idea but so propaganistic,,,,,,it was patheic
It took 6 months May-October 1942 to film (3 months to make 1 hour of film)
then even when it was finished by October 1942 too late by its orginal relase date of 7 december 1942 {Released Feb 1943)
Even if had been finished on time released December 1942 it wsa simply out of date,,,,,by that time B-17 had MG in their Tails.....
and so sterotyped....One crewman had a father who was in the Lafayette Edcadrille...another crewman is the father of a air force Officer who is fighting died in Phillipines....
BY contrast the Doolittle Raid of 1942 produced 2 movies I excellent and the other was even worse than Air Force.....
The Good one was the true Story the RUptured Duck 30 "30 seconds over Tokyo"
The Poor was was The Purple heart Corner of Doolittle raiders being tried in Japan...I think this i s the Movie where one POW kncoks out his captors...and in the midst of the Bombing Raid of Tokyo...drives a burning tanker Truck so the plane above can seen where to drop their Bombs....and is both Burned alive and blasted by his own countries Bombs.....

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Really terrible....
James Jones Books/Movies:
From here to eternity.......sterotyped love story background fosselixed US Army
The Thin red Line....Agree witha USMC Vet who was there ...no hills like they had in movie.....
Ironically there is a good movie on Guadacanal "Guadacanal Diary"

In regard Rambo Movies...there like Rocky 2 et all dumb Dumber and enough to put you to sleep....Especially Rambo 3 where Rdumbo finally found his purpose in life...leading the
Peace love afghanistains..... tp victory........one movie even worse then that is
The patriot......The American Revolution .just wasnt like that....Movies usally dont get wars right....but what did you expect?

[LAstry]

In regard to the Russian-Ukraine conflict....I have no doubt the producers of "Red Dawn".....or.....Slyvestor Stalone or Chuck Norris or Mel Gibson...will crank out a big budget....film version. of this events..now guess who plays the lone good guy...who always winds up winning against "the Enemy'''....I have no doubt anything even remotely coresponding to the truth vs their version of a contemporary event....will be completly coincidendtal..... In short Holly wood movies on conflict are about as truthful as a Joe Biden promise....

[Topspeed]

In regard to the Russian-Ukraine conflict....I have no doubt the producers of "Red Dawn".....or.....Slyvestor Stalone or Chuck Norris or Mel Gibson...will crank out a big budget....film version. of this events..now guess who plays the lone good guy...who always winds up winning against "the Enemy'''....I have no doubt anything even remotely coresponding to the truth vs their version of a contemporary event....will be completly coincidendtal..... In short Holly wood movies on conflict are about as truthful as a Joe Biden promise....

I have a hunch that Investor Malone is too old to play Zelenskyi.

[Hans1906]

Just to mention these typical "hollywood-popcorn-nonsene" movies together with the fighting in the Ukraine, this just leaves
you speechless.

Frightening, ignorance, the very typical "we give a shit!" attitude.


Hans

[LAstry]

My responce was satirical...for example there were live action films of the Fighting in Vietnam {example the Tet offensive} yet when Hollywood is concerned its movies like the "Deer Hunter" or "Full mental Jacket" or "Miss SaigoN"; on the other Hand TV movies like Phillip Caputo "A rumor of War" will never be blockbusters...Indeed in a factual series on Vietnam they had a film on the fighting in the US embassy (with interviews of person actually there) or the History channel fighting in faluja {films of fighting with interview of Persons actually there}...yet Holly wood version is "The three Kings" which is nothing more than a updated versiaon of that unfuuny black comedy "Kelly's heros" There was a film "the Great raid" on a US Army rangers/Phillippino freeing US POWs from the Japanese....{it was ruined by 2 things No inclusion of a acutal film showing the released POWS and,,,,,Compoiste fictial characther} ....

[Hans1906]

Comparing the "Deer Hunter" with "Full Metal Jacket" is a very big disappointment.

The two films have as little to do with each other as an elephant does with a monkey, namely nothing at all.
A similar comparison would be "Lawrence of Arabia" and "Patton", two films, I adore, but from two different worlds.

Perhaps it was, or is, important to have seen both films very often in order to be able to form your own opinion.
There are war films and there are classics, the film "Deer Hunter" is one of the modern classics, "Full Metal Jacket" most definitely not.
Kubrick, or not.


Hans

[Ponury]

Próbka z polskiego kina. Film "Kolumbowie". Rosyjskie T-34 zabudowane jako... niemieckie Tygrysy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a70QJra1Do

[jbroshot]

Good afternoon,

I was watching the american war movie "Sands Of Iwo Jima" from the year 1949 the other night, once again, late night german TV.
German Title: "Du warst unser Kamerad" (E: "You were our comrade...")

Wikipedia (E): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sands_of_Iwo_Jima

What a waste of time, I propably watched the movie in my younger years in the local cinema in the 1960s,
and later one or two times on the german TV late in the night.
Incredibly bad, as a fan of John Wayne, this film one of the Duke's worst movies.
Wayne, which I appreciate for some later westerns, just terribly bad, what a nonsense!

Hans

I agree, Sands of Iwo Jima was a bad movie. And never watch it with a veteran of Iwo Jima (my father was in the 5th Marine Division)

I've seen The Big Red One mentioned here a few times. FWIW the movie was written and directed by Samuel Fuller who was a combat veteran who served in the 1st Infantry Division

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Fuller

And, lastly, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Force 10 From Navarone as a candidate for worst WWII movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_10_ ... one_(film)

Allegedly it is "sequel" to The Guns of Navarone