Actors who fought during wartime

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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Richard Anderson » 06 Nov 2021 03:09

Hans1906 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 19:36
Hans Cristian Blech
In 1941 Blech was drafted into the Wehrmacht and served as a soldier in the German-Soviet War. The distinctive scars on his face are not, as is often read, from the Second World War, but from a car accident on Darmstadt's Luisenplatz, in which Blech was involved as a 14-year-old.
The German "soldier" per se, in very many movies...
Reminds me of a Marine Corps drill sergeant I once knew...and, oddly enough, I remember the Luisenplatz and "Lange Ludwig" in Darmstadt very well. Fascinating to know he was in a prewar car accident there.
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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Hans1906 » 08 Nov 2021 16:31

Richard,

I think, only someone like Herr Blech, who himself had gone through such a "school", only such a person could shine in this role.

This can certainly be compared with the many years later role of Mr. R. Lee Ermey (Vietnam Veteran) in "Full Metal Jacket".
You don't just "play" such a role, you have experienced comparable things yourself. That's what makes the authenticity of a few films.

But that's just as a personal thought on the subject, that's all it is. :wink:


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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by LineDoggie » 13 Feb 2022 23:41

Felix C wrote:
13 Jun 2021 23:17
Lee Marvin is lauded for his experience and it is four days of combat before being wounded. Obviously he saw plenty in those days.
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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Hans1906 » 16 Apr 2022 11:24

The german actor Herr Wolfgang Preiss.
From April 1941 he was deployed to an anti-aircraft unit, which did not mean that his evening stage performances were interrupted. In 1942 he made his debut as a film actor in the UFA production Die Große Liebe alongside Zarah Leander, who was released by the Wehrmacht for this purpose...
Source and link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Preiss

WOLFGANG PREISS TRIBUTE


Der sanfte Nobelmann: Wolfgang Preiss (1910-2002) / The gentle nobleman: Wolfgang Preiss (1910-2002)
Link: http://www.bad-bad.de/gesch/w_preiss.htm

You all remember his face, for sure.
Preiss was "The German Soldier", with whom we grew up in German and international post-war cinema, neat, staunch German, he probably never embodied war criminals and Nazis.


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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Loïc » 04 May 2022 01:01

I see that Lino Ventura (1919-1987) has been mentioned several times in the forum for war movies but not yet in this thread
french-wikipedia doesn't tell a lot about this period of his life, with chronogical inaccuracies, and italian-wikipedia even less : nothing at all

Italian of Paris, mobilized, he had to return to Italy to serve in the 24°Reggimento Fanteria 14 months in 1942-1943
he was in Gorizia in april 1942 and he went as far as Montenegro
he deserted for his French wife Odette in may 1943 and lived under a false-identity in a village in France, the gestapo having asked explanations to his wife

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Lino Ventura in the Free Naval French Forces and LRDG in a Taxi for Tobruk (1961)
Italian infantryman in Yugoslavia and deserter hidden in France in his real life 20 years earlier

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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Hans1906 » 04 May 2022 10:28

Hi Loïc,

thanks for your information about Lino Ventura, very interesting...
During World War II he was drafted into the Italian army, deserted in 1943 and hid in a barn in Baracé until the end of the German occupation.
Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lino_Ventura

A great actor that I have always respected and still respect, many of his films are unforgotten classics, just great! 8-)

RIP Lino


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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Hans1906 » 25 May 2022 12:29

Here a very nice docu about Lino Ventura in the Arte/ARD Mediathek:
Lino Ventura - Ganove mit Herz / Lino Ventura - crook with a heart
Link: https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/arte/ ... Ni0wMDAtQQ

Excellent, well worth seeing! 8-)


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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by LineDoggie » 08 Jun 2022 17:18

Hans1906 wrote:
16 Apr 2022 11:24
The german actor Herr Wolfgang Preiss.
From April 1941 he was deployed to an anti-aircraft unit, which did not mean that his evening stage performances were interrupted. In 1942 he made his debut as a film actor in the UFA production Die Große Liebe alongside Zarah Leander, who was released by the Wehrmacht for this purpose...
Source and link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Preiss

WOLFGANG PREISS TRIBUTE


Der sanfte Nobelmann: Wolfgang Preiss (1910-2002) / The gentle nobleman: Wolfgang Preiss (1910-2002)
Link: http://www.bad-bad.de/gesch/w_preiss.htm

You all remember his face, for sure.
Preiss was "The German Soldier", with whom we grew up in German and international post-war cinema, neat, staunch German, he probably never embodied war criminals and Nazis.


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Re: Actors who fought during wartime

Post by Hans1906 » 10 Jun 2022 12:51

"A film fairy tale with a lot of sentimental kitsch and the turmoil of war, in which the German Star Guard doesn't look good either."
– Hamburger Abendblatt of February 28, 1970

Source: Hannibal Brooks https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Brooks

For my personal taste another "shitty movie" ("Scheissfilm"), but also world-famous characters like Reed, Pollard and Preiss had to earn money, the money didn't just fall out of the sky then either.

They were not Douglas, Wayne, etc., and many of the films were made for money, to make ends meet.

We should judge it mildly, with our current knowledge and our modern indulgence, it was completely different times, completely different years...

Have mercy on this huge pile of crap! :wink: :lol:


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