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SS Ausweis

Post by JoeW » 02 Sep 2020 05:04

How many and what were the various Ausweis issued to men and women, SS members, employees and any others? There was of course the SS-Führer Ausweis. Was there a similar one for SS-Unterführers? Perhaps images of examples?

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by JoeW » 06 Sep 2020 16:18

Well, I suppose this was not a very interesting thread as I posted as just a question. Pehaps if I started with those I have seen.
Here is an example of a Dienstausweis used by the RSHA. I believe it was referred to as a Red Ausweis. But there were other Dienstausweis?
And of course we have seen an example of the SS-Führerausweis in the Dr. Max Werner thread. And finally, I have this image of a KL Ausweis for a female. Any other examples out there?
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by Hans1906 » 07 Sep 2020 16:43

Good evening JoeW,

all three documents are fakes, typical nonsense, this kind of stuff was already sold in the 1970s on german flea markets,
to uninformed buyers.

In my younger years, I bought several such documents, also on german flea markets, owners of original SS documents
rarely show these documents online, they are auctioned, if at all, or offered by specialists.

Sorry! 8-)


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P.S. Maybe suitable as a coaster for a can of beer, for more probably not...

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by JoeW » 07 Sep 2020 17:01

Hey Hans, thanks for your totally uninformed comments. Please explain your comments. Why do you think these are fakes. Were such documents non-existent or do they differ from originals in your expert opinioni,

While I have no real certainty about the lady's Ausweis, the other two are original. I have no idea where you got the idea that such original SS documents are not shown online. The Max Werner Ausweis was shown on this forum here :viewtopic.php?f=38&t=24082&p=2101949&hi ... r#p2101949 And examples like the original Kripo Ausweis above have been displayed on other forums and in many published books. Please post some of your "faked" examples or have you conveniently disposed of them.

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by Hans1906 » 07 Sep 2020 17:28

Good evening Joe,

nothing important about your documents at all.

Original, or not, just keep on collecting all this...

Good Luck!


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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by JoeW » 09 Sep 2020 15:24

Good morning Hans,
Thank you for another totally uninformed post. “Nothing important ....”? Are you serious? Do you not realize the first pictured is an Ausweis issued by the RSHA for use by a member of the Kriminalpolizei. Do you assume these are dome-a-dozen? These are extremely rare and in exceptionl instances can be found with the matching Dienstmarke. Notice the anti-erasure finish of the Ausweis. The RSHA of course issued Ausweis for Gestapo agents.

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by smetanin albert » 18 Sep 2020 11:16

Unterfuhrer-Ausweis
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by smetanin albert » 25 Sep 2020 07:25

one more example
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Post by smetanin albert » 16 Oct 2020 12:17

early sample
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by smetanin albert » 20 Oct 2020 10:03

Sonderausweis
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by smetanin albert » 10 Nov 2020 14:51

Stapo
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by g hanson » 16 Nov 2020 15:53

The 1936 Gestapo Dienstausweis above is just one of many variations issued by them throughout their existence, this being the type issued to Gestapo auxiliaries and issued in accordance with RdErl. d. RFSSuChdDtPol. im RMdI. v. 1.7.36 and 6.8.36.

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by steve248 » 08 Feb 2021 17:40

Here's one taken from a Gestapo man on a hijacked plane from Croatia to Italy in October 1943. It landed at an airbase held by the British.
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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by g hanson » 08 Feb 2021 19:13

Steve, what a fantastic post, thank you.

Further proof that these were carried in occupied territories contrary to regulations.

I wonder what happened to the original?

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Re: SS Ausweis

Post by steve248 » 08 Feb 2021 19:47

I found only a photograph of the Ausweis. The original is possibly in the archives of a "British Government agency" gathering dust.
Is that Streckenbach's signature signing on behalf of Chef Sipo-SD?

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