AA fire director Id

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Apr 2020 20:35

Hi all,

I need help with this Italian AA fire director.
See also the image posted here on 30 Jan 2015 and 07 Apr 2012. It seems a fixed model, maybe for coastal AA batteries....

I know the following Italian fire director models:

Mod.37 GALA
Mod.40 GAMMA (Hungarian GAMMA-Juhász)
Mod.41 BGS

The fire director of my image is none of these models. Any idea ?? :?

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 10 May 2020 16:04

Nobody for my last image ?

Well, here an image from Ebay. I am not sure about this fire director.
Somebody ?

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by ROLAND1369 » 11 May 2020 16:41

I would say that this is a German KDO 40. dIRECTOR
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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 11 May 2020 20:06

Ummhhh....That was my first thought but I am not sure.....

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Jun 2020 13:00

Hi all,

Not exactly a fire director (Kommandogerat) but associated equipment.... A Malsi Gerat
Does somebody know how the data were received from the remote radar ?

Image from Ebay
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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by ayovtshev » 18 Jun 2020 20:32

Hi Sturm!

Thanks for the nice picture!
Two memoirs of soldiers, who used to operate the MALSI Gerät, state that data was received via phone (the one mentiones " per Mikrofon", the other "durch Köpfhörer").

Cheers,
Angel

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Sep 2020 22:28

Thanks for your answer, Angel...and sorry for delay

Here tow images from Ebay. I am not sure. Hazameyer fire director ?

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Paidoskixos » 17 Sep 2020 10:35

Definitelly Hazemeyer, most probably LG5.

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Paidoskixos » 17 Sep 2020 10:35

Definitelly Hazemeyer, most probably LG5.

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by factfndr54 » 19 Sep 2020 11:54

Hi Sturm,

About #92:
Looks like a KDO 40 with some extra modules attached.
Purpose unknown: Some kind of camera's for calibration of traing purposes?
See attached pictures
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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Grzesio » 20 Sep 2020 12:08

These are cameras used for training, they were recording various parametres calculated by the director.
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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by factfndr54 » 20 Sep 2020 18:17

Hello Grzesio,
Thanks for sharing this information, very useful.

Ger

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by ayovtshev » 21 Sep 2020 05:25

The KdoGer 40, eqiped with cameras, is prepared for evaluation of crew training.

All cameras were triggered by pressing the Start button on the KdoGer, in addition 2 cinetheodolites with exactly measured base were used for the evaluation.
Once camera films were developed and data recorded on the films was drawn on an evaluation paper, it was possible to determine the quality of firing data obtained by the crew of the KdoGer. 40.

This method made shooting the real Flaks on a target drone obsolete and allowed for very precize evaluation of crew training.

Source-Die Geschuetze,Ortungs- und Feuerleitgeraete der schweren Flak by Werner Mueller

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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by factfndr54 » 22 Sep 2020 17:05

Hi Sturm,

Post #26 shows a WIKOG 9 SH.

Pictures are taken in Argentina, source:
https://www.zona-militar.com/foros/thre ... 492/page-2

The rangefinder on the WIKOG probably is a 4m Nedinsco.
The same type of rangefinder is present on a number of Hazemeyer predictors (see #97, note the handles)
Nedinsco (a Carl-Zeiss subsidiary) had a factory in Venlo, The Netherlands.
But it is possible that the the WIKOG 9 SH predictors were manufactured elsewhere.
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Re: AA fire director Id

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Sep 2020 20:16

Paidoskixos wrote
Definitelly Hazemeyer, most probably LG5.
Thanks for your answer, Paidoskixos

Do you know if these Hazemeyer directors were manufactured during WW2 under German control?

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