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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Jul 2022 09:18

Hi ilfil,

thanks for Your reply.
It could also be the type ABF 3. The type ABFD is the variant with the diesel engine (D = Diesel).
Maybe there are visible the three words on the bonnet: Renault - Huile - lourde, the mark for a vehicle with a diesel engine.
Here the types and the years of production:
1934: ABF
1935: ABF 2
1936: ABFD
1938: ABF 3 and ABFD 3
The type AEMD has the LWB bus chassis.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 18 Jul 2022 21:46

Here is a Chart from http://lesrenaultdepapier.fr/camions1.htm showing some general specs of the ABF and ABFD. As Bert noted the Moteur a Huile Lourde indicates the diesel ABFD. Good eyes, Bert, but to be honest I can't see anything there. :|
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 19 Jul 2022 04:26

I guess this is what we are looking for:
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Post by ilfil » 19 Jul 2022 06:21

Hi guys,
I have to admit I hate Renault. Their truck range is too big and I'll never be able to sort all these models, submodels and variants, most of them with confusing designations for even more fun.
Thalkig about the particular suspect here, in Renault archives there is also ABFE integral van (1935) and I have no idea is this chassis or body index, or combination of both. There is also AFB "gasogene a bois" (1936) which is simply "ABF" but, if following the Renault system, it must be ABFH. Etc, etc.
There is also an interesting difference in one decorative detail of these ABFs but again I have no idea is this ID for something or not (for example petrol/diesel engine, etc.) or the "sudden strip end" (or start?) is simply new model year change to simplify the production.
The straight bumper still reamains mistery, though, I cannot find single other ABF with such.

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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by apollo111 » 19 Jul 2022 14:20

Renault abf straight bumper:
renault abf Orel_-_Poltawa.jpg
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Post by ilfil » 19 Jul 2022 16:43

T(h)anks!

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 19 Jul 2022 21:28

ilfil wrote:
19 Jul 2022 06:21
Hi guys,
I have to admit I hate Renault. Their truck range is too big and I'll never be able to sort all these models, submodels and variants, most of them with confusing designations for even more fun.
Hi ilfil,
At least you can take comfort in the fact that their car model lineup is even more confusing!
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Post by SIS 5 » 19 Jul 2022 23:48

Hi ilfil,

thanks a lot for Your reply. You are totally right, the sytem of Renault for the designation of the different models, submodels and variants is very< complicated. But according to the difference between "essence" and "huile lourde" the designation is discernible. Here some examples:
ZF6AC - ZF6DC; YFAC1 - YFDC1; T14AC1 - T14DC1; VT6AC - VT6DC; YZAE - YZDE; ABF - ABFD; ADT - ADTD; AGK - AGKD. The "D" is the mark for a diesel engine. The same with the models, which had only a diesel engine like the heavy trucks type AFKD, AGLD, AGOD.
Maybe that´s interesting for You: a post of a French expert about the three versions of the type ABF (source: https://jacques02130.skyrock.com/301557 ... -1936.html). On the pic the version ABFD.

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Post by carius » 31 Jul 2022 13:08

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Post by ilfil » 31 Jul 2022 19:05

SIS 5 wrote:
19 Jul 2022 23:48
Maybe that´s interesting for You: a post of a French expert about the three versions of the type ABF (source: https://jacques02130.skyrock.com/301557 ... -1936.html). On the pic the version ABFD.
Hi Bert,
The same:

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Thanks, useful info. See? As always: premiere, deuxieme, troixieme version. I hate Renault!!! :x

While on this, here is a present to you from Archives Renault again, IMHO the most idiotic ABF I've ever seen:

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I'll be thankful if somebody can explain me why a HALF cab needs FULL roof?

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Post by arminfreitag » 01 Aug 2022 21:21

Hi all
here some interesting recent Ebay pictures.
Could anybody please identify the second picture please.
The last one is a Saurer RR 7 Instandsetzungskraftwagen I think.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 01 Aug 2022 22:40

Hi Armin,
That is a beute GMC ACK 353. The all wheel drive GMC's were occasionally fitted with dual front wheels as was this CCKW 353:
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Post by arminfreitag » 02 Aug 2022 21:59

Hi Max
thank you for the identification.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 04 Aug 2022 03:09

Wanderer W 11 kübelwagens in a training exercise:
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Post by carius » 06 Aug 2022 06:37

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