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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by Maxschnauzer » 12 Jul 2022 21:12

Nice sharp photos of the KHD Maultier are rather scarce on the internet. Here's the best I've found so far.
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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by arminfreitag » 13 Jul 2022 20:18

Hi Max
thank you for the nice and clear picture.
Here some more pictures of KHD Maultier. One with a rare Koffer-Aufbau.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 13 Jul 2022 21:44

Hi Armin,
A couple of new ones there. Thanks very much!
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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by SIS 5 » 14 Jul 2022 09:52

Hi Armin, hi Max,

thank You very much for posting these great pics of Magirus Maultier vehicles!
Here three other pics of this semi-track vehicle before the takeover by the Wehrmacht.
Source of the pics: Waffen-Arsenal Special Band 19 "Magirus Militärfahrzeuge 1930 - 1945" by H. G. Mayer-Stein.

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Post by arminfreitag » 14 Jul 2022 21:18

Hi Max, Bert
thank you for your replies and the 3 pictures that are much clearer
than my copies. I find it interesting that vehicle 1003 was produced
in July 1943 and 1064 in June. Is there an explanation?
KHD vehicles were the least produced. Spielberger in his book
Die Halbketten des deutschen Heeres von 1909 - 1945 states in a caption
that about 2500 vehicles were produced while in the text he gives a number
of 1747. A difference of nearly 800. Do you have the correct numbers?
Anyway since the photographic coverage of the KHD vehicles seems to be
the smallest of the 3 types, here some more examples, also one more of 1003.
Interesting the different kind of road wheels.

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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by Maxschnauzer » 15 Jul 2022 04:03

Hi Bert and Armin,
Thanks guys for posting all those great photos. It feels like my birthday came 3 days early! Bert, those are the best resolution of those well known photos I've seen and Armin those you posted are first rate as well.
I don't know if we will ever get to the bottom of the Numbers Mystery.
As regards to total production numbers I find it interesting that in the Spielberger English edition "Halftracked Vehicles of the German Army 1909-1945" he gives the number 2500 both in the text and the caption of the chassis photo. On the other hand, Oswald's "Kraftfahrzueg und Panzer..." doesn't give any production numbers while Holger gives 1741 on his sitehttp://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... -khd-.html
So go figure. :|
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Post by kfbr392 » 15 Jul 2022 06:39

SIS 5 wrote:
14 Jul 2022 09:52
Here three other pics of this semi-track vehicle before the takeover by the Wehrmacht.
Source of the pics: Waffen-Arsenal Special Band 19 "Magirus Militärfahrzeuge 1930 - 1945" by H. G. Mayer-Stein.
If only you had not cropped the captions! :-)

p.23: "Um die Leistungsfähigkeit der deutschen Rüstung zu demonstrieren, wurden im Krisenjahr 1943 die monatlichen Produktionszahlen öffentlichkeitswirksam demonstriert."

"In order to demonstrate the performance of the German armament industry, the monthly production figures were given a publicity boost in the crisis year of 1943"



So, these ornamental figures on the grilles of Maultiere are company wide monthly production totals, certainly including 3t and 4,5t trucks, RSO, and possibly also - my speculation since it is Magirus - Feuerwehr-Aufbauten.

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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by arminfreitag » 15 Jul 2022 14:46

Hi kfbr392
thank you for the clarification. Now it makes sense.

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Post by ilfil » 16 Jul 2022 00:42

Hi guys,
I'm afraid in the set of factory pictures you've missed this one:

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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by carius » 16 Jul 2022 11:55

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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jul 2022 20:04

Hi ilfil
thank you for the additional picture. New to me.

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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Jul 2022 13:59

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the truck posted by carius on post #2620 ?

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Post by SIS 5 » 17 Jul 2022 17:21

Hi Sturm 78,

a very good question. It is a Renault truck of the ABF series. It seems to be a heavier variant than the normal 5 tonner. So it could be the type ABFD 3 from 1938 with a payload of 6,5 tons. Unfortunately I don´t have a pic of this model.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 17 Jul 2022 21:10

Hi Sturm and Bert,
Thanks for the details, Bert. I also make it an ABF or ABFD series Renault:
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Re: ► Soft Skinned Vehicles

Post by ilfil » 18 Jul 2022 02:27

Hi guys,
Isn't ABFD a LWB bus chassis?
No doubt, clearly a member of ABF family but I wonder from where this straight bumper came?
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