► Photothread: Umbauwagen

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by ilfil » 30 Mar 2022 19:49

kerryboo wrote:
30 Mar 2022 15:51
Hello all,
I spotted this on eBay.de and had never seen one before. The back of the photo shows it was printed in 1975, but I suspect it was taken from a negative, clearly not a scan of a print. Has anyone seen a similar vehicle photo? Also, where would the base vehicle have been acquired, were these CMP Fords supplied to the USSR under Lend Lease? Is it an 8cwt or 15, it is hard to tell, and what might its Kfz identity be?
Anyway, an interesting photo,
Kerry.
Hi Kerry,
This is Kfz 15 on Ford CMP F15A 4x2 Cab 11 chassis, a quantity of these were captured in Greece. The body was made upon standartized drawings by Pionier Bat. 659 (mot.):

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Talking about Lend-Lease CMPs, AFAIK in the USSR was shipped only a small quantity of Chevrolet C60L Cab 13 LWB 3-tonners.
HTH
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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by kerryboo » 30 Mar 2022 22:26

Hi ilfil,
Many thanks for the information, it is fascinating that these were made in (presumably small) quantity by a single unit.
Best regards,
Kerry.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by Maxschnauzer » 31 Mar 2022 02:53

kerryboo wrote:
30 Mar 2022 22:26
Hi ilfil,
Many thanks for the information, it is fascinating that these were made in (presumably small) quantity by a single unit.
Best regards,
Kerry.
Hi Kerry,
Nothing here to add to ilfil's informative post just glad to see you back here again.
Cheers,
Max

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by kerryboo » 31 Mar 2022 09:13

Thank you Max, I hope to be able to participate a bit more.
All the best,
Kerry.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by ilfil » 01 Apr 2022 00:11

kerryboo wrote:
30 Mar 2022 22:26
Hi ilfil,
Many thanks for the information, it is fascinating that these were made in (presumably small) quantity by a single unit.
Best regards,
Kerry.
Hi Kerry,
Most probably these weren't made in the unit workshop(s), according to Bart Vanderveen (in 'Wheels & Tracks' 30) the bodies were made in more serious facilities, again: most probably.

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I cannot comment this but it looks there was at least one (central?) workshop responsible for those CMPs repairs, at least this picture makes me think so:

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I cannot see on it any other vehicles but CMPs, note all 3 on the front are F15A 4x2 trucks and two of them are fitted with new German kübel bodies and WH number plates already.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by SIS 5 » 01 Apr 2022 09:23

Hi all,

here another source, that these Fords CMP F15A 4x2 were captured in Greece and 15 of them were made with bodies upon standartized drawings by Pionier Bat. 659 (mot.). These vehicles were sent to Russia to Heeres-Pionier-Batallion 666. Here another pic of these vehicles of Heeres-Pionier-Batallion 666 (source of the information and the pic: Waffen-Arsenal Band 123 "Ford im Kriege" by Reinhard Frank).

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by kerryboo » 01 Apr 2022 09:28

Thanks again ilfil, I had misunderstood your posting. It is the drawings which were made by the Pioneer unit and the bodies were made elsewhere, following these drawings. Bert, thank you for the additional material.
Fascinating.
Cheers,
Kerry.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by Maxschnauzer » 12 Jun 2022 22:28

Here's an interesting Holzgas umbau. I think it started life as a '38 Packard.
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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by carius » 16 Jul 2022 12:09

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by carius » 14 Aug 2022 04:47

umbau1.jpg
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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by carius » 02 Sep 2022 03:24

umb.jpg
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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by arminfreitag » 09 Sep 2022 23:21

Hi all
some recent Ebay pictures.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by arminfreitag » 16 Sep 2022 14:49

Hi all
another recent Ebay picture.

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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by ilfil » 17 Sep 2022 14:16

Hi Armin,
I can't see anything umbau in this one? Just an ordinary early production Bedford OXD with Notek as the only German upgrade.
Cheers!
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Re: ► Photothread: Umbauwagen

Post by arminfreitag » 17 Sep 2022 20:14

Hi ilfil
thank you for the correction. For me it looked like a Umbau vehicle.
You see that I don't know much about softskins and even less about non German vehicles.

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Armin

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