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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Clive Mortimore » 18 Nov 2017 13:32

Knouterer wrote:Two more pictures of a "short" 6pdr, at the seafront at Bognor Regis in 1940 (both from A. Saunders, Bognor at War). The carriage - possibly cobbled together in a railway workshop, or something like that - looks similar to the picture above, but the wheels are different. In both cases taken off some civilian vehicle, I suppose.

The soldiers may be from the 5th Medium Regiment, which was not yet re-equipped with bigger guns and had a detachment with seven 6pdrs in this area in Sept-Oct 1940, as part of "Brocforce".
Hi Knouterer

Thanks for those two photos.
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Nov 2017 20:03

Knouterer wrote
I's a 7.2 inch howitzer
Clive wrote
I think Sturm is right and it is a 6 inch gun. The Scammell towing it is carrying civilian number plates, only issued to pre war vehicles. Most of these were lost during the fall of France and those remaining in the UK would have had them removed by 1942 when the 7.2 inch was introduced.

Plus the barrel looks a wee bit too long for a 7.2 inch MkI toIV.
Ummhhh...it seem a difficult question... :roll:

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Clive Mortimore » 19 Nov 2017 00:12

Sturm78 wrote:
Knouterer wrote
I's a 7.2 inch howitzer
Clive wrote
I think Sturm is right and it is a 6 inch gun. The Scammell towing it is carrying civilian number plates, only issued to pre war vehicles. Most of these were lost during the fall of France and those remaining in the UK would have had them removed by 1942 when the 7.2 inch was introduced.

Plus the barrel looks a wee bit too long for a 7.2 inch MkI toIV.
Ummhhh...it seem a difficult question... :roll:

Regards Sturm78
The 7.2 inch was mounted on both the 8 inch howitzer and the 6 inch gun carriages as they were the same. The 8 inch shows up because it is short and stumpy where both the 6 inch and the 7.2 inch are longer, the 6 inch being the longest but depending on the angle doesn't readily show its self to be different.
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Nov 2017 21:08

Thanks, Clive

Can somebody identiy the model of this gun on spanish Canalejas gunboat ??

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 23 Nov 2017 17:43

Re Sturm78 » 19 Nov 2017, 22:08 This appears to be a 767.2 mm Vickers SS export model which is listed as being in th Spanish Navy Inventory.

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Nov 2017 21:19

ROLAND1369 wrote
This appears to be a 767.2 mm Vickers SS export model which is listed as being in th Spanish Navy Inventory
Thank you for your answer, ROLAND1369. I have not been able to find any information in the net about Vickers Mod.SS.... :roll:

Here, another Vickers gun on Canovas del Castillo gunboat. A 102mm Model ???

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by ludvig » 24 Nov 2017 14:39

Hello Sturm78 ,
Your photo from 19.nov 2017 :
The Dato og Canovas gunboats received new Ansaldo - Armstrong 76.2 /40 Mod . 1936
from Italy . ( not Vickers 76.2 /45 Marca S.S. )
See :
Garcia,Franco , Perez : Historia de la Artilleria Antiaerea Espanola page 155
Perez : La Artilleria Naval en la Guerra Civil Espanola 1936 / 39 page 235

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by ludvig » 24 Nov 2017 14:45

Hello Sturm78 ,
Info ,drawing and photo of the Vickers de 76.2/45 Marca S.S. you can find in
Perez : La Artilleria Naval en la Guerra Civil Espanola 1936/39 page 165 - 171

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Nov 2017 23:22

ludvig wrote
Your photo from 19.nov 2017 :
The Dato og Canovas gunboats received new Ansaldo - Armstrong 76.2 /40 Mod . 1936
from Italy . ( not Vickers 76.2 /45 Marca S.S. )
See :
Garcia,Franco , Perez : Historia de la Artilleria Antiaerea Espanola page 155
Perez : La Artilleria Naval en la Guerra Civil Espanola 1936 / 39 page 235
ludvig wrote
Info ,drawing and photo of the Vickers de 76.2/45 Marca S.S. you can find in
Perez : La Artilleria Naval en la Guerra Civil Espanola 1936/39 page 165 - 171
Thank you very much for your anwers, ludvig...

Any idea about the Vickers gun posted on 23 Nov 2017?

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by ludvig » 25 Nov 2017 13:14

Hello Sturm78 ,
The same photo appears at page 130 in Perez : La Artilleria en la Guerra Civil
Espanola 1936/39 .
Gun is a Vickers 101.6/40
More info on page 121 to page 130 .
Canonero " Canovas del Castillo "orginal :
4 x Vickers de 101.6/40
2 x Vickers de 47/50 A.A.
reworked in 1937 to :
4 x Vickers de 101.6/40
2 x ansaldo - Armstrong de 76.2¤0 A.A.
1 x Rheinmetall de 20 mm C. 30 A. A.
(from page 315 , the same book )

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Nov 2017 21:43

Thanks, again, for your answer and very useful info...ludvig

101.6mm L40 Vickers Model ???? export model maybe ??

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by verdenpark » 03 Dec 2017 03:14

Hello,
The gun in the photo posted on the 24th. of November is the bog standard 4"Mk.IV BL. If memory serves me correctly, it was introduced before WWI, and lasted until just after WWII. Many were given a taller mount to allow high angle fire, and were redesignated 4"Mk.V HA.
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Dec 2017 14:55

verdenpark wrote
The gun in the photo posted on the 24th. of November is the bog standard 4"Mk.IV BL. If memory serves me correctly, it was introduced before WWI, and lasted until just after WWII. Many were given a taller mount to allow high angle fire, and were redesignated 4"Mk.V HA.
Probably you are right, verdenpark. Thanks for your help..

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Dec 2017 17:15

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this british coastal gun ?
I have this image identified in my computer files as an 381mm 15in gun but I guess more probably an 9.2in gun.....

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 13 Dec 2017 15:12

You are correct. If this gun is at Singapore, and the camouflage and construction of emplacement are consistent with this, then this is a 9.2 inch Mark X gun on a Mark VII mount, 35 degree elevation.

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