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Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Mar 2009 16:37

Hi all,

Can anybody Identify this naval gun. According to photocaption is a british gun but I don`t know the model.
It is curious: the postal is German and the gun English :? also in the background appears a German panzerschiffe
Image from Ebay.

Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78.
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Mimbrogno » 17 Mar 2009 19:04

I'm no expert, but off hand that gun strikes me as being a 4" mount on a US Clemson class four stack destroyer, and the starbord wing mount at that. As for how it got alongside a Panzerschiff and what it was doing there, I don't know. Maybe it was an encounter during a US neutrality patrol, or was a photograph of a meeting before the war. If the gun is US, it's likely that it could have been missidentified as being british as so many four stack destroyers would be transfered to the RN under "lend lease" by the time this photo was published for 1942. Just my two cents anyway.

Very nice photo!
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Takao » 17 Mar 2009 22:51

Looks like it might be a British 4"/45 Mk IX without a gunshield.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_4-45_mk9.htm

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Post by Urmel » 18 Mar 2009 00:45

The caption reads 'The gun of a british merchant steamer'.

Could have been taken from one of Scheer's victims?

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Post by kgvm » 22 Mar 2009 21:17

Yes, Urmel. According to the caption in Krancke/Brennecke, RRR Das glückhafte Schiff, the picture is showing the gun of the "Duquesa".

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Mar 2009 12:11

Hi all,

On December 18, 1940, Admiral Scheer captured the British refrigerator ship Duquesa (8651 tons) with 14.5 million eggs and 3000 tons of meat on board. This proves to be a valuable prize: The Duquesa was used to resupply the auxiliary cruisers Pinguin and Thor, and the supply ship Nordmark.....The captured Duquesa, provider of much welcomed meat and eggs to the German raiders, continued to supply Pinguin until February, when the fuel to run her refrigeration ran out, and she was finally sunk.


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Post by kgvm » 27 Mar 2009 20:40

Fuel: in fact coal, for "Duquesa" was coalfired.

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Dec 2009 16:19

Hi all,

Can anybody Id. this destroyed british field gun?

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Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by C.GILLONO » 01 Jan 2010 17:29

6" howitzer to me
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Jan 2010 12:04

Hi C.GILLONO,

Thanks for your answer, but now I think rather in a 114mm (4.5 inch) Gun Mark I , although I am not 100% sure.

I have on my computer other two photos of unidentified British guns. Both photos are taken in Crete. Can anyone help?

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Thanks in advance. Greetings Sturm78
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Jan 2010 13:06

Nobody for coastal guns? :( :(

Well, I hope to have more luck with this british railway gun of WW1 era:

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Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Manuferey » 30 Jan 2010 01:13

Hello Sturm78,

You'll find the answers for your two guns in this thread ("Coast defenses in Greece"):
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&start=30

1st one: 6 in. Mk VII
2nd one: 4 in. BL IX. So the same gun as on your previous German postcard !

and the British railway gun looks like a BL 12 inch gun Mk IX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_12_inch_Railway_Gun

Emmanuel

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2010 14:14

Thank you very much for your answer, Emmanuel, :D and sorry for delay :oops:

Another british gun to identify:

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Regards Sturm78
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by karlik » 04 Apr 2010 18:44

Hi!
Help me please to identify this howitzer

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Thanks!

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by redcoat » 04 Apr 2010 21:52

karlik wrote:Hi!
Help me please to identify this howitzer

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Thanks!
Its a 4.5 inch Howitzer
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