War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

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War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by 1945GDB1945 » 28 Dec 2021 14:00

Andelot (France) : September 12, 1944.

Three German soldiers executed by a French lieutenant belonging to the 501st tank regiment (2nd armored division, General Leclerc)...

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by 1945GDB1945 » 29 Dec 2021 10:42

Who is this lieutenant of the 501st Tank Regiment ? His name : Robert Galley.

Biography (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Galley

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Hans1906 » 29 Dec 2021 15:08

1945GDB1945 / Gabriel,

the internet is a "small village", but your request in the FdW should also be mentioned in your topic here on the AHF:

Kriegsverbrechen : Drei deutsche Soldaten in Frankreich erschossen (Fotos)
Link: https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/inde ... sen-fotos/

Massaker an deutschen Kriegsgefangenen in Andelot
Link: https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/inde ... n-andelot/

I would like to point this out, without being able to answer your questions directly here in this topic.
You should have mentioned your previous requests, to tie it all together.


The best of luck for your further researches to Canada.


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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by LineDoggie » 31 Dec 2021 02:44

Assuaging butthurt honneur is easy on an unarmed POW
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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 31 Dec 2021 10:29

Is that a strecher laying in the grass? (bottom left corner, last picture). If so the scene looks like a planned execution of some sort.

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Hans1906 » 31 Dec 2021 11:09

Waleed,

yes, it was a "Krankentrage" (E: "Stretcher), comparable with the designs that are still similar today.
(If it was a Wehrmacht model, no idea, sorry..?)

The third victim first shot in the back, on the second photo shot in the head, obviously.

Is the name of the photographer known at that time ? (Solved)
Krementchousky, Alexandre, Docteur (Odessa, 02–04–1905 - Limoges, 31–03–1979), photographe

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Robert Galley tenant un pistolet Colt 45, bras droit tendu, face au dos d'un soldat allemand coiffé d'une casquette modèle 1943 ; la visière de cette dernière et les bras de l'Allemand, à moitié levés, semblent en mouvement. Les corps de deux soldats allemands sont étendus dans l'herbe. Une gamelle allemande se trouve sur le sol. La grille surmontant un muret se situe juste avant la voie ferrée (invisible ici) ; route bordée d'arbres et de maisons à l'arrière-plan.
Robert Galley holding a Colt 45 pistol, right arm outstretched, facing the back of a German soldier wearing a 1943 model cap; the cap's visor and the German's arms, half raised, appear to be in motion. The bodies of two German soldiers lie in the grass. A German canteen lies on the ground. The gate on top of a low wall is just before the railroad track (not visible here); tree-lined road and houses in the background
I forbid myself a personal comment, I only hope that the shot to death soldiers could be later identified.


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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Sid Guttridge » 31 Dec 2021 15:06

Given that we have the place, date, unit number and name of the lieutenant, it should be possible to find out more about the circumstances so that we can better make a judgement on the event. That said, the method of execution does look irregular.

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Hans1906 » 31 Dec 2021 16:02

Sid,

"irregular" is a peculiar name for a war crime, that would not cross your lips as a relative of the victims of that time, very certainly not.

We don't know the background, unfortunately, and every victim, every person killed, was one victim too many.

We all should not forget that, we know better today, but very certainly we do not know anything...


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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Sid Guttridge » 31 Dec 2021 16:40

Hi Hans,

"Irregular" may be a "a peculiar name for a war crime", but we have yet to establish the circumstances so we don't yet know if that is what it was. However, it certainly looks like an execution and one carried out in an irregular manner.

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Hans1906 » 31 Dec 2021 20:49

Sid,

maybe we all still have enough time to rack our brains over these two photos...

They are horrible pictures, I feel sorry for the perhaps still living relatives, if they should see the photos.

I remember an old gentleman who recognized his fallen older brother in a Stalingrad photo, the man spoke about it in an older TV documentary.
Also, in a photo posted in FdW many years ago, we found a reference to an uncle who, if I remember correctly, went missing after Stalingrad.

We must all understand, and also accept, how much such fates deeply move entire families even today.

The last evening of a year is always a new beginning, with all positive thoughts, but a disregard for the past, this will not do us all good.

I wish all of us this realization, I know today, why my mother in the face of the films of the marching young german Soldiers in the direction of the East, always left the room, Ingrid was not able, to watch the smiling faces of young men, walking towards hell on earth.

Even in my childhood years, she could not bear to see these scenes, my mother cried like a little child, I will never forget.

A happy new year to you! :)

For me, it is a gift from the gods that I have never had to shoot another human being.


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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by Linkagain » 01 Jan 2022 01:56

Were these SS ?

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Re: War crime : three German soldiers executed by a French soldier (PHOTO)

Post by daveshoup2MD » 04 Jan 2022 09:16

1945GDB1945 wrote:
28 Dec 2021 14:00
Andelot (France) : September 12, 1944.

Three German soldiers executed by a French lieutenant belonging to the 501st tank regiment (2nd armored division, General Leclerc)...
Presumes facts not in evidence, counselor.

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