Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by LesCM19 » 13 Oct 2019 18:31

I bought Volume III from Military Press or some other incarnation of theirs, was going to get the one covering cavalry units. Looking forward to the new publications.
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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Loïc » 29 Dec 2019 18:45

hello Lee

I hope the campaign plan for your serie still goes well for 2020

I wonder for the very interesting Volume VI part 2 Medical & Quatermaster services (2010), it was for lack of space you didn't precise more how/where was assigned each company pages 30-31 and 80?

59 Compagnies de COMA de RG page 30
-24 assigned to the Armies (8e 9e 10e under 9e Armée)
-12 to field bakeries
-14 to GRC
-3 to Stations-Magasins
-6 in Reserve

I identified the 1ère Cie maybe with Field Bakery (BOC)n° 1 near Crépy-en-Valois
23e Cie to BOC n°8 Dijon
13e was in Verdun, 15e located in the same postal sector than 10e, 19e Cie also in Meuse around Commercy St Mihiel

for the 20 Indochinese Auxiliaries Companies of the Field Bakeries page 31
the 191 men of the 711e Cie were interned into Switzerland - by deduction -> was with BOC n°10 of the 8e Armée
found the 719e Cie suffering heavy losses in Montataire near Creil the 18th may so maybe assigned to BOC n°1

about the Nurses Companies page 80 assigned to the HOE²
found only the 15e Cie in Vittel so with the HOE² n°5
13e 14e 21e Cie followed 7e Armée while 17e was with 1ère Armée...

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Delwin » 30 Jul 2020 10:43

archiveruk wrote:
15 Aug 2019 23:02
It will be next year, indeed all three planned revised volumes will be available next year. I'll let you know when they are ready.

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Hi Lee- any news on that?

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by archiveruk » 31 Jul 2020 21:41

Hi,

COVID-19 has changed everything.

I was due to go to Paris in March but had to cancel the trip as Paris went into lockdown and the archives were shut. I lost most of my money.

With lockdowns popping up all over the place I'm not going to try again until the pandemic ends or there's a working vaccine.

For the record I got the virus in December 2019 from someone whose partner had been in China. Luckily I was only ill for a day with it.

I can't even get to the UK National Archives to do some research on the BEF as they limiting you to one visit per week and six items only. Its just not worth the expense.

In the meantime I've done some online research into other subjects for future books.

Looks like its going to be another year before the second editions will be ready.

Lee

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Delwin » 02 Aug 2020 20:18

Thanks for the update. Fingers crossed - for sake both of the second edition and our own...

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Loïc » 22 Aug 2020 11:25

Glad to have news from you Lee and to know that you are safe and sound

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by sultanbev » 25 Feb 2022 16:13

Hi Lee,
any update on the books?
Have managed to get vols 1-3, 5 from second hand sellers on ebay, desperately looking for vol.4.

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by archiveruk » 27 Feb 2022 17:06

Hi,

The pandemic has held things up as I've not been able to get to Paris to research the few missing pieces of data to complete this part of the series. I hope to get out to Paris later this year dependant on the restrictions placed by the French government. At the moment you have to have had a vaccine within the past 9 months so mine will run out before I plan to go (Paris is cheaper in the Autumn). Fingers crossed the restrictions change.

In the meantime I've decided to do a complete rewrite, rather than updated editions. This means more detailed OOB data, including the peacetime army. I also plan to included more officer details.

This means it may delay things a while I type all this stuff up and check it.

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Lee

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Loïc » 28 Feb 2022 16:54

Thanks you Lee

so rendez-vous not before 2023 at the very best to have a copy of the volume 1 "reloaded" in ours hands

the vaccinal pass should be abandoned in march

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by archiveruk » 28 Feb 2022 20:34

Hi Loïc,

2023 is the target for all the new editions.

As I said in my previous post there will be more data. I'm aiming to keep the page count for volume 1 down to 700 pages.

The chapter on military districts has been expanded to include the peacetime and wartime OOB so lots of extra pages. I'm updating the maps as well.

I've identified all the officers in the Army Staff and GQG so they will be included and the officers in the armies and corps have been traced as well.

Unfortunately the unit diagrams have had to be deleted to make space. Also deleted are the tables of units, although they seemed a good idea at the time, they proved more trouble than they are worth and will be replaced by a list instead which will allow me to include more data.

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Lee

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Loïc » 02 Mar 2022 19:35

hello Lee

all the new editions, you mean that in 2023 all the revised volumes numbered 1 to 6-3 into new I-II-III will be available not only the first 700-pages volume?
Loïc wrote:
08 Aug 2019 14:01

so the new editorial plan will be something like

I-II-III x600 pages REVISED editions volume 1 to 6 ~1800 pages + 100 more = 1900 pages [vs 1356 for 1st edition volumes 1 to 6-3]

IV-V-VI merging the following planned 7 to 11
7 – The mobilisation plans 1918-39. The French Army 1918-39. Plan E and its variants. Mobilisation and initial deployment of the army. Detailed account of the Sarre offensive.
8– Weapons, manpower, transport and logistics. Production of weapons and vehicles. Development and purchase of new weapons. The call up and release of personnel. Situation of divisions in men, weapons and equipment. Organisation of road and rail transport. Organisation of logistics in the zone of interior and army zone.
9– The Zone of the Interior 1939-40. Changes to Military districts. Order of Battle of the Zone of the Interior 01.01.1940. Coastal defence - organisation and order of battle. Anti-aircraft defences – organisation and order of battle.
10– French North Africa 1939-40 – mobilisation – order of battle – plans for an offensive into Libya. The Levant 1939-40 – mobilisation – reinforcements – order of battle – plans for an expedition into the Balkans.
11– The plans to enter Belgium and Switzerland. Changes in deployment October 1939-May 1940. The arrival of the BEF (order of battle). The five month plan – formation of new units. The Scandinavian expeditions.


VII will be previously volume 12 about the early May 1940 ORBAT

VIII & IX Armée de l'Air NEW!
huge ambition! :)

PD just learn that the vaccinal pass will end the next 14th march, hope we can return to the Libraries and Archives

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by archiveruk » 06 Mar 2022 19:38

Hi Loïc,

They will be all be around 700 pages with some parts of the other original volumes being amalgamated into a single volume.

The planned volumes I have not yet written will not be numbered as originally planned as I intend to include some of this information in the new editions, for example the changes to military districts and their composition and coastal defences.

The order of battle for 09/05/1940 is partially completed, all that is needed is the maps to be drawn and a few details to be researched. This will likely be around 300 pages.

As for the next visit to Paris later this year it's good news the vaccine passports have been dropped. Hopefully the other restrictions will be lifted later this year.

The BEF will a separate volume, although I've not been able to get to Paris, I have been to London over the past year and added much on the BEF to my archive, as well as the British & Commonwealth forces in the UK and the rest of the world.

Research for the French Air Force is nearly complete, all that is missing are details on airfield buildings and equipment and airbase plans.

Kind Regards

Lee

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Re: Lee Sharp's French Army 1939–1940

Post by Ying » 10 Mar 2022 17:56

archiveruk wrote:
28 Feb 2022 20:34
Hi Loïc,

2023 is the target for all the new editions.

As I said in my previous post there will be more data. I'm aiming to keep the page count for volume 1 down to 700 pages.

The chapter on military districts has been expanded to include the peacetime and wartime OOB so lots of extra pages. I'm updating the maps as well.

I've identified all the officers in the Army Staff and GQG so they will be included and the officers in the armies and corps have been traced as well.

Unfortunately the unit diagrams have had to be deleted to make space. Also deleted are the tables of units, although they seemed a good idea at the time, they proved more trouble than they are worth and will be replaced by a list instead which will allow me to include more data.

Regards

Lee
Hello Lee,

May I know that is the content of all Volumes will be amended in your new published version? Looking forward to get them home. :D

Best wishes

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