Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

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Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 15 Jan 2018 07:07

Hello, everyone, I am looking for the actual organization of Group Duffour in June 1940, what I know it had 17e DLI , what else did she had, is it formed from IV CA and how are they destroyed by German, anyone have data on that ? Thank

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 15 Jan 2018 12:42

Hi Kelvin
Have a look over here:
http://atf40.forumculture.net/t6162-cor ... ee-duffour
It's in french language
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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by alain adam » 15 Jan 2018 23:54

i let prosper in his own knowlege of this subject .

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ATF40 ( Armée de Terre Française 1940 ) : French ground army in 1940 , website atf40.fr

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 16 Jan 2018 11:22

I did'nt have no more knowledge on this subject, that's the reason, I have put the link on line which I found while googling.
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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 17 Jan 2018 07:55

Hi, Prosper, thank for your link.

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 31 May 2021 13:14

Prosper Vandenbroucke wrote:
15 Jan 2018 12:42
Hi Kelvin
Have a look over here:
http://atf40.forumculture.net/t6162-cor ... ee-duffour
It's in french language
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Prosper :wink: :wink:
Hi, Prosper, when I want to check again Group Duffour but the link became dating website.

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 01 Jun 2021 22:39

Kelvin wrote:
31 May 2021 13:14
Prosper Vandenbroucke wrote:
15 Jan 2018 12:42
Hi Kelvin
Have a look over here:
http://atf40.forumculture.net/t6162-cor ... ee-duffour
It's in french language
Kindly regards
Prosper :wink: :wink:
Hi, Prosper, when I want to check again Group Duffour but the link became dating website.
Hi Kelvin, sorry for that but I was posting that link in 2018 and you try to reach that forum via that link in may 2021.
I am not sure but since 2018 I think that this forum is existing anymore.
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Prosper :wink: :wink:

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 02 Jun 2021 03:37

Prosper Vandenbroucke wrote:
01 Jun 2021 22:39
Kelvin wrote:
31 May 2021 13:14
Prosper Vandenbroucke wrote:
15 Jan 2018 12:42
Hi Kelvin
Have a look over here:
http://atf40.forumculture.net/t6162-cor ... ee-duffour
It's in french language
Kindly regards
Prosper :wink: :wink:
Hi, Prosper, when I want to check again Group Duffour but the link became dating website.
Hi Kelvin, sorry for that but I was posting that link in 2018 and you try to reach that forum via that link in may 2021.
I am not sure but since 2018 I think that this forum is existing anymore.
Kindly regards
Prosper :wink: :wink:
Hello, I see it before, but I have new picture for Duffour Group, I want to double check, what I updated Group Duffour is :
1er Motorized Cavalry Group
2e Motorized Cavalry Group
4e Motorized Cavalry Group
IV/239e RI
24e Bataillon de Douaniers
Elements of 17e DLI

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 02 Jun 2021 10:11

Hi Kelvin,
I didn't know more about it.
Sorry
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Re: Organization of Groupement Duffour 1940

Post by Loïc » 06 Jun 2021 17:58

It was an Army Corps size - Groupement - not a Group

I think it is a question of migration of the website because this thread is now here
https://atf40.1fr1.net/t6162-corps-d-armee-duffour

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Re: Organization of Groupement Duffour 1940

Post by Kelvin » 07 Jun 2021 06:58

Loïc wrote:
06 Jun 2021 17:58
It was an Army Corps size - Groupement - not a Group

I think it is a question of migration of the website because this thread is now here
https://atf40.1fr1.net/t6162-corps-d-armee-duffour
Hi, Loic, thank for your link, very helpful for me. :D

For another link in battalion of Douanier, only see 6e, 7e and 8e Douanier in SF Lille, but Lee Sharp vol III mentions 3e Douanier battalion in Lille, did this unit still there in June 1940 ?

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Loïc » 10 Jun 2021 18:38

Hello

the 3rd and 8th Customs Battalions are given as kept in place to oppose to the plunder the 27th may 1940 in Lille while the Fortified Sector of Lille HQ is evacuating

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 11 Jun 2021 09:02

Loïc wrote:
10 Jun 2021 18:38
Hello

the 3rd and 8th Customs Battalions are given as kept in place to oppose to the plunder the 27th may 1940 in Lille while the Fortified Sector of Lille HQ is evacuating
Hi, Loic, thank for your reply, that mean 3e bataillon de Douaniers was trapped too with 6e, 7e and 8e bataillon de Douaniers, right ? Thank

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Loïc » 13 Jun 2021 19:43

hello
from what I saw a company of the 7e is also given as being with the 20e DI until 10th june far from Flanders in Lorraine
but pay attention that the Customs Battalions can be something like the Departemental Gendarmerie with territorial companies and small brigades/posts instead of being used as a single-battalion-unit, 3 companies from this battalion renforced the customs in Ardennes

Lee Sharp Volume VI-3 gives as lost in Dunkirk for the 6e and largely destroyed in Lille for the 8e

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Re: Organization of Group Duffour and ending 1940

Post by Kelvin » 14 Jun 2021 13:31

Loïc wrote:
13 Jun 2021 19:43
hello
from what I saw a company of the 7e is also given as being with the 20e DI until 10th june far from Flanders in Lorraine
but pay attention that the Customs Battalions can be something like the Departemental Gendarmerie with territorial companies and small brigades/posts instead of being used as a single-battalion-unit, 3 companies from this battalion renforced the customs in Ardennes

Lee Sharp Volume VI-3 gives as lost in Dunkirk for the 6e and largely destroyed in Lille for the 8e
Hello, Loic, thank so much for your help. :D

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