Warsaw 1944

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Warsaw 1944

Post by NavyCdo412 » 24 Feb 2021 18:47

Hello, seeing the page of death toll of 1944 Uprising in Warsaw, why there is not a German war cemetery, when in other areas of Poland there are?

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Re: Warsaw 1944

Post by GregSingh » 25 Feb 2021 00:37

why there is not a German war cemetery
What makes you think so?
There is one in Wólka Węglowa, another in Modlin.
You can get pretty damn far in life by just saying what you're going to do and then doing it.

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Re: Warsaw 1944

Post by gebhk » 25 Feb 2021 11:22

To be fair, the Warsaw Cemetary - precisely the German Quarters of the Northern Cemetary at Wolka Weglowa - was not created formally until 1991 when the remains of 401 German soldiers who had died during WW2 and were buried there, were joined by an estimated further 400 brought from other cemeteries and from field graves. It was certainly controversial because the remains of several war criminals were interred there including those of Jurgen Stroop, infamous for the suppression of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. His name was subsequently chiselled off the memorial plaque to respect the feelings of the local people. It is theorised that SS general Franz Kutschera, the exceptionally murderous head of SS and Police in Warsaw, assassinated early in 1944, may also rest there anonymously.

To go back a step, during the war, the Germans created a Heldenfriedhoff (Heroes' cemetery) extension to the Polish Powazki military cemetery where eventually circa 5,800 documented bodies were placed. After the war this was neglected and from 1955 new Polish graves were placed over much of the area. Consequently the majority of the German bodies remain where they were. Exhumation in the future is unlikely as it would require the demolition of the new Polish infrastructure before it could be attempted. Thus there is a second (and much larger) German military cemetery in Warsaw, albeit a hidden one.

What was left of the Heldenfriedhoff was removed in 1978-80 to make way for the Warsaw-Torun motorway. The remains were exhumed, transferred to the Noirthern Cemetary and the rest you know.

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Re: Warsaw 1944

Post by NavyCdo412 » 25 Feb 2021 21:14

Thank you. Yes, many died during Warsaw uprising. It should be a remembering areaa. To avoid faults of the past. Probably German but also Polish bodies were lost in rubbles after 1944 fighting

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