HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

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HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by Maksym Chornyi » 04 Jul 2020 16:07

HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

I continue my Warsaw series of articles, devoted to the occupation of Poland and the Holocaust. I have used Hitler’s visit to the conquered Warsaw as an insight into the topic of the occupation in wider terms. Let’s deepen into the September 1939 war campaign, the siege of Warsaw, daily agenda of Hitler, and the duties of Erwin Rommel as the chief of the ‘Führerbegleitbataillon’ (Führer escort brigade). This material demanded more than a month of my work and 50+ books to research the intimate story, finally resulted in a 6000-word article.

As always, I would be grateful for your feedback on the material: questions, adding, facts: your comments, and half an hour of your time, invested in reading.

https://war-documentary.info/hitler-goes-warsaw/

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by Futurist » 04 Jul 2020 22:13

Very interesting and amazing efforts! Thanks, Maksym! :)

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by GregSingh » 12 Jul 2020 09:20

Which source confirms that Hitler actually did cross Vistula river over Poniatowski bridge? What was the point?
Okecie airport and all other places he visited were on the other side of the river.

Highly unlikely that he landed at the airport (SW of town) and entered city from the East over Poniatowski bridge?
How was this even possible?

In black - most probable route from an airport to city center.
In yellow - Hitler's presence confirmed by photographic evidence.
In blue - Poniatowski bridge

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by gebhk » 12 Jul 2020 11:49

Hi Maksym

First of all, a great piece of work which I hope you get published.

Regarding the bridge issue - my somewhat limited Polish sources say AH travelled directly from Okecie to the Town Centre (Srodmiescie) which seems to support GregSingh's concens. Worth checking out perhaps?

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by GregSingh » 13 Jul 2020 04:59

Official version of Hitler's visit released to the press is not very helpful. It skips most of AH tour after Belweder palace visit.
Um 11.30 Uhr trifft der Führer auf dem Flughafen Okecie ein.
[..]
Etwa in der Mitte der Ujazdowski-Allee ist eine kleine tannengrüngeschmückte Tribüne errichtet. Hier formieren sich die deutschen Truppen zum Vorbeimarsch vor dem Führer.
[..]
Nach dem Vorbeimarsch besuchte der Führer kurz das Belvedere, das Haus, in dem Pilsudski lebte und starb. Vor dem Eingang zum Schloß steht eine Ehrenwache der deutschen Wehrmacht. Der Führer verweilte kurz in dem Arbeitszimmer des großen Toten, dann begab er sich wieder zum Flugplatz.
The Führer arrives at Okecie airport at 11.30 a.m.
[..]
In the middle of Ujazdowski-Allee is a small grandstand decorated with fir greenery. Here the German troops gather to parade in front of the Führer.
[..]
After the parade, the Führer briefly visited the Belvedere, the house where Pilsudski lived and died. An honor guard of the German Wehrmacht stands in front of the entrance to the castle. The Führer paused briefly in the large, deseased man's study, then went back to the airfield.
BTW The main street Hitler took to northern part of town is called Marszałkowska Street
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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by Hans1906 » 13 Jul 2020 11:18

Good afternoon Maksym Chornyi,

I like to second, excellent work, simply outstanding!

Most of the photos on your site excellent, like a journey in a time machine...
It is very rare to see such a detailed and interesting website on this topic.

All the best for your further projects, keep on the good work! :thumbsup:

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by GregSingh » 16 Jul 2020 04:09

More on the subject.

A view of Hitler's motorcade traveling along Aleje Jerozolimskie, from Okecie airport in ENE direction towards city centre.

Warsaw - Aleje Jerozolimskie.jpg

Just a minute or so later this photo (already presented) was taken on the corner of Marszałkowska Street and Aleje Jerozolimskie, showing motorcade turning into Marszałkowska in NNW direction, on the way to Saxon Palace.

Corner Marszalkowska - Aleje Jerozolimskie.jpg

And here how the building on the corner looked like before it was bombed in September 1939.
We can see ORBIS travel agent offices on street level on both photos.

Marszałkowska 98 - Aleje Jerozolimskie 33.jpg
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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by Maksym Chornyi » 15 Aug 2020 13:52

Thank you all for the words of appreciation. The issue of the airport was indeed debateful, as I have stated within the article. As for the route, I have found the german map with the route of Hitler's motorcade. A number of sources dealing with the assassination attempt (separate section in my article) also included the information that he entered the city center the same way he left. The matter, that he left a city center in direction of Poniatowskie bridge is ubdoubtful. I would not pursue my viewpoint, yet I believe that it's not a matter of what is likely and likely: it's a matter of the sources.

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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by GregSingh » 16 Aug 2020 03:35

yet I believe that it's not a matter of what is likely and likely: it's a matter of the sources
Exactly.
As I'm not aware of any primary source stating that AH crossed the Poniatowski's bridge, I asked what was your source.
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Re: HITLER’S VISIT TO WARSAW 1939

Post by GregSingh » 11 Nov 2021 01:27

Incorrect information that AH plane landed at Kielce, not Okecie airport on the 5th Oct. 1939 comes from wrong translation in Domarus book.
Here is original German fragment:

Domarus1.jpg

And here is an English translation:

Domarus2.jpg

Somehow Warschauer Flugplatz Okecie became Kielce airport.

BTW
AH was in Kielce, but on 10th of September 1939:
https://www.hitlerpages.com/pagina42.html
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