Second Army was assisted by the Second Panzer Group in August. That is why the Germans were able to take Gomel and encircle Soviet 13th and 21st Armies in August. Just as in October in the OTL, Second Army was in the middle of a force of 3 panzer groups striking east together toward Moscow. In this ATL, Second Army would be on its own providing screening protection between AGS and AGC in September.History Learner wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021 22:57
I'm well aware that 4th PzGr would still be on the Luga, hence why I specified 2nd PzGr being shifted to the former's OTL position. The issue with 2nd Army is that nothing you are saying here excludes the possibility given 2nd Army was guarding AGC's flanks in August historically and still managed to achieve the Gomel salient and destroy Central Front. Why, specifically can they not repeat such? Can you substantiate your position here?
Glantz shows the following Soviet forces in the Leningrad sector prior to the arrival of assistance from Panzer Group 3:You have to provide any evidence of this; if we are just citing the OTL situation, then you are being disingenuous concerning 2nd Army and Briansk Front in AGC's sector, given what historically occurred with 50th Army and prior performance by 2nd Army against Central Front. Since you are clearly able to examine the wider situation in the AGC sector, you need to be consistent in your argumentation concerning AGN's. Yes, AGN would be down a single Corps from 3rd PzGr but the Soviets would be down, in early September, three of their historical five armies. If you are taking the position that one German corps is equal to three Soviet armies, than you need to explain why Briansk Front-with three armies-survives despite the Germans having four more mobile divisions at the start of this alternate Typhoon compared to OTL-incidentally, also about a Corps.
Historically, AGN was unable to defeat these forces without assistance from Panzer Group 3.